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Beorn: Orc / Warg interrogation

TheHutt
Gondor


Jun 22 2014, 12:00pm

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Another bit found in the Hobbit Chronicles 4 was about a scene from a book where Beorn reveals how he interrogated an orc the night before.

"That Orc head magically appeared from Weta Workshop at very little notice when it was realized we needed it to illustrate a scripted moment, the result of a run-in the previous evening between Beorn and an Orc and Warg scouting party. It showed up on set literally minutes before the camera rolled!" (Ra Vincent, Set Decorator)

"As in the book, an impaled Orc's head warns of the consequences of trespassing on Beorn's lands"



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PredatoR
Bree


Jun 22 2014, 12:09pm

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I would really like to see that scene! Fantastic it would be. & during this time, A company could climb down from carrock...


shaundobson
Rivendell

Jun 22 2014, 2:03pm

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hopefully this makes the EE! [In reply to] Can't Post

 


tsmith675
Gondor


Jun 22 2014, 2:41pm

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This would be a totally badass scene. [In reply to] Can't Post

I really hope it's in the EE.

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NecromancerRising
Gondor


Jun 22 2014, 2:59pm

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Fingers crossed for that scene // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Earl
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Jun 22 2014, 3:12pm

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That will probably explain why... [In reply to] Can't Post

... Beorn is far behind the company as they run (seemingly for much of the next morning) towards his house, even though he seems pretty close to them in the opening scene where Bilbo sees him.

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KeenObserver
Lorien


Jun 23 2014, 3:15am

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The odds that splatter-loving PJ would disregard this grim detail and leave it in the text were slim to none.

I had a strong hunch that Jackson would do more than just consider it.

Like all of the other prospective EE material, the scripted moment and ghastly "prop" would be welcome additions.

Thanks for uploading that gruesome photo, TheHutt.

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KeenObserver
Lorien


Jun 23 2014, 3:56am

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After Bolg retrieves his father, one of the orc scouts that Azog may or may not have ordered to stay behind finds himself on the wrong end of a late-night tussle with the deadly werebear?

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"That Orc head magically appeared from Weta Workshop at very little notice when it was realized we needed it to illustrate a scripted moment, the result of a run-in the previous evening between Beorn and an Orc and Warg scouting party. It showed up on set literally minutes before the camera rolled!"

I could very well be misinterpreting the provided information (I tend to be wrong most of the time), but it has lead me to assume that the impaled orc-head prop was required for the outdoor shooting of the company's introduction to Beorn.

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Wootton Major
The Shire

Jun 23 2014, 9:22pm

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From memory, in the book there is also a warg skin nailed to the fence? Is there any mention of this anywhere?

To me this is far more impressive. Anyone can behead an orc, to skin a warg with your 'bear hands' is another thing.

I really hope this makes it in....


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Jun 23 2014, 10:05pm

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From memory, in the book there is also a warg skin nailed to the fence? Is there any mention of this anywhere?

To me this is far more impressive. Anyone can behead an orc, to skin a warg with your 'bear hands' is another thing.



I presume that Beorn was in Mannish form when he skinned the Warg.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


Dcole4
Rohan

Jun 23 2014, 10:38pm

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I don't think we'll see this scene in the EE [In reply to] Can't Post

With the switch from 2 films to 3 films they moved the "Azog returns to Dol Guldur" scene much earlier. I think that in the original structure Azog would have returned to Dol Guldur AFTER failing to nab the dwarves in the barrel sequence. It would have opened film 2 (*of 2).

Since the barrel sequence was moved to the middle of a second film, the Azog talk w/ the Necromancer no longer worked as a mid-piece scene since it (re)introduces the audience to his motives, and really is a "beginning of the movie" type of the scene. So they squeezed it into the Beorn section of the film, now the opening of film 2 (*of 3), REPLACING a scene in which Beorn confronts the warg scouts. We may still see the head on the stake during the scene in which Gandalf & Bilbo introduce Beorn to the dwarves but I highly doubt we'll see any form of a battle during the night.

 
 

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