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a.s.
Valinor
Feb 9 2008, 5:31am
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You think Tolkien's handwriting is bad?
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I thought some of you might be interested in this article which has pictures of some of the most difficult-to-decipher handwriting facing biographers, publishers, and others trying to read what some of our famous writers wrote! And we thought JRRT was hard to read... I can barely read a word of any of these (and I've spent decades deciphering physician's written notes and orders). a.s.
"an seileachan" "And we must all bring Provisions." "Bring what ?" "Things to eat." "Oh!" said Pooh happily. "I thought you said Provisions. I'll go and tell them." And he stumped off.
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Finding Frodo
Tol Eressea
Feb 9 2008, 6:55am
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It reminds me a bit of translating baby-talk
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Not that I'm comparing the words of Robert Frost to baby talk! When the article talked about the importance on context and familiarity with an author's usual word choices, it made me think of times when one of my kids as toddlers said something or asked for something and my mom or even my husband was clueless. I could understand them though, because I knew the things they were likely to say and how they would say it. They could still confuse me sometimes, such as when my oldest daughter was about 18 months old and used the same sound to ask for music and grapes. She called both of them "sic".
Where's Frodo?
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Valinor
Feb 9 2008, 7:05am
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Frost wasn't so bad, I could read most of it. But the others? *whimpers* The one from Theodore Parker reminds me more of Greek than of Latin script. Poor editors and publishers!
I do not suffer from LotR obsession - I enjoy every minute of it.
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Starling
Half-elven
Feb 9 2008, 8:55am
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Makes writing by my 6 year olds look pretty good
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What was with the Henry James letter? It seemed to have been written both horizontally and vertically. Some of these look quite beautiful if you're not actually trying to read them.
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grammaboodawg
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Feb 9 2008, 11:17am
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I should be a doctor, because I have the bad penmanship down... I just need the degree ;) This is great! I've found that deciphering bad penmanship is like learning a language, once you get the idiosyncrasies down and identify the common markings/phrases, you can usually get along quite nicely.
Trust him... The Hobbit is coming! "Barney Snow was here." ~Hug like a hobbit!~ "In my heaven..." TORn's Observations Lists
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hatster
Rohan
Feb 9 2008, 1:30pm
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.eeek... that one in faux greek! Maybe it was the year
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I spent poring over James Joyce manuscripts but Frost is really easy to read. In fact, I do think Tolkien is tougher than that. Some of those others though... I always hated running into cross written letters. They are enough to make your eyes bleed sometimes.
I have lost the dwarves and I have lost the wizard, and I don't know where I am; and I don't want to know, if only I can get away.
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Feb 9 2008, 3:26pm
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That was a nice example of that "19th-century practice of cross-writing", done in order to squeeze as much on a piece of precious paper as possible. (It also saved on postage.) This was also done in earlier times using ancient manuscripts; I can't recall offhand what text it was - I think it was something of a mathematical nature - that was discovered, once someone realized that the text was "beneath" a centuries-later cross-writing. We're really spoiled by paper being so inexpensive! Tolkien used every scrap he could find, which is why many of his works are on the backs of examination papers, and full of erasures and writing-over.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "I desired dragons with a profound desire" "It struck me last night that you might write a fearfully good romantic drama, with as much of the 'supernatural' as you cared to introduce. Have you ever thought of it?" -Geoffrey B. Smith, letter to JRR Tolkien, 1915
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Gondor
Feb 9 2008, 5:13pm
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Makes my eyes twitch just looking at it!
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N.E. Brigand
Half-elven
Feb 11 2008, 7:42pm
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Why could university presses once but no longer afford a "roomful of proofreaders"?
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Are their books not selling as well as they used to? Did the proofreaders use to starve for being so poorly paid?
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