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Matthias132
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Apr 27 2014, 5:42am
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Never-discussed Topics?
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I joined this forum only a month ago, and I can see that many discussions happened years ago.
Now, I don't know if someone has already proposed this question, but:
Are there any topics, theories, discussions, mysteries, questions, ambiguous statements, poems, etc. that you have never before seen discussed, and you really want discussed?
It could be something trivial, something that is almost worth not discussing I don't really care. Propose ANY topic, I am quite interested to see what you haven't seen discussed.
Do not meddle in the affairs of Wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger.Courage is found in unlikely places - J.R.R. Tolkien (Gildor)
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demnation
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Apr 27 2014, 5:50am
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But I have to say (even though I've only been here for a little under two years) that I've seen pretty much every topic (as it relates to Tolkien) under the sun discussed on this forum.
"It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till. What weather they shall have is not ours to rule." Gandalf, "The Last Debate."
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squire
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Apr 27 2014, 6:49am
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It's hard to say what has "never been discussed" in the Reading Room. You'd have to be familiar with every post over about 15 years. That's hard - even N. E. Brigand, who has spent years poring over past posts in the RR, might hesitate to say what has never been discussed.
Why not just start a discussion about what you're interested in? Unless we talked about it in the very recent past, say the last year or two, you're likely to appeal to a large number of new participants, and the older habitants are unlikely to resist an opportunity to rethink or revise their opinions, if they choose to join in.
Since you asked, though, here are some topics that I can't remember seeing covered:
Why are the Misty Mountains misty?
How were the Valar perceived by the Haradrim and the Easterlings?
Where did Smaug learn to talk like a "testy English colonel"?
Why didn't Galadriel and Celeborn have children?
Did Gondor make beer?
How did the Ents reproduce?
When had Theoden fought in battle?
What was the impact of wildfire on Ithilien's ecology?
Do orcs have culture?
Was Gollum a virgin? Was Frodo? Does this explain their relationship?
Doesn't Pelargir have a complete set of archives of Numenor and the Second Age - and if so, why is that era so scantily documented?
Why didn't Tharbad secede from Gondor and Arnor?
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imin
Valinor
Apr 27 2014, 8:37am
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Why didn't Galadriel and Celeborn have children?
One daughter - Celebrian, who went on to marry Elrond?
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Maciliel
Valinor
Apr 27 2014, 11:36am
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who is celebrian's real father?
does squire know something we don't? "history of middle earth, volume 15: secret genealolgies."
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the scene, as i understand it, is exceptionally well-written. fili (in sort of a callback to the scene with the eagles), calls out "thorRIIIIIIN!!!" just as he sees the pale orc veer in for the kill. he picks up the severed arm of an orc which is lying on the ground, swings it up in desperation, effectively blocking the pale orc's blow. and thus, forever after, fili is known as "fili orc-enshield."
this earns him deep respect from his hard-to-please uncle. as well as a hug. kili wipes his boots on the pale orc's glory box. -- maciliel telpemairo
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noWizardme
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Apr 27 2014, 12:05pm
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Wait: can this be THE maciliel, responsible for do many lads an lasses going off on interesting sub threads?
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Good to see you about!
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ever let your aim be to come at truth, not to conquer your opponent. So you never shall be at a loss in losing the argument, and gaining a new discovery.
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"nowimė I am in the West, Furincurunir to the Dwarves (or at least, to their best friend) and by other names in other lands. Mostly they just say 'Oh no it's him - look busy!' "
Or "Hold off! unhand me, grey-beard loon!"
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noWizardme
Half-elven
Apr 27 2014, 12:07pm
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We have never discussed Fight Club. //
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~~~~~~
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ever let your aim be to come at truth, not to conquer your opponent. So you never shall be at a loss in losing the argument, and gaining a new discovery.
Arthur Martine
"nowimė I am in the West, Furincurunir to the Dwarves (or at least, to their best friend) and by other names in other lands. Mostly they just say 'Oh no it's him - look busy!' "
Or "Hold off! unhand me, grey-beard loon!"
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BlackFox
Half-elven
Apr 27 2014, 12:09pm
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"Our truest life is when we are in dreams awake." - Henry David Thoreau
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Maciliel
Valinor
Apr 27 2014, 12:59pm
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yes, nowimė. 'tis i. the thoroughly unlinear, peripatic i.
but, in my defense, all those lads and lasses? i only gave them a little nudge out of the door.
cheers (and likewise) : )
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aka. fili orc-enshield
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the scene, as i understand it, is exceptionally well-written. fili (in sort of a callback to the scene with the eagles), calls out "thorRIIIIIIN!!!" just as he sees the pale orc veer in for the kill. he picks up the severed arm of an orc which is lying on the ground, swings it up in desperation, effectively blocking the pale orc's blow. and thus, forever after, fili is known as "fili orc-enshield."
this earns him deep respect from his hard-to-please uncle. as well as a hug. kili wipes his boots on the pale orc's glory box. -- maciliel telpemairo
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CuriousG
Half-elven
Apr 27 2014, 1:45pm
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Yeah, how could they have kids if Celeborn was a virgin?
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We've never discussed that.
More seriously, Matthias: if you'd like to discuss a topic, feel free to bring it up.
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Maciliel
Valinor
Apr 27 2014, 1:57pm
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i'm pretty sure we've never discussed thorin, his hair, or discussed richard armitage with any syllable. someone should get going on that.
cheers --
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aka. fili orc-enshield
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the scene, as i understand it, is exceptionally well-written. fili (in sort of a callback to the scene with the eagles), calls out "thorRIIIIIIN!!!" just as he sees the pale orc veer in for the kill. he picks up the severed arm of an orc which is lying on the ground, swings it up in desperation, effectively blocking the pale orc's blow. and thus, forever after, fili is known as "fili orc-enshield."
this earns him deep respect from his hard-to-please uncle. as well as a hug. kili wipes his boots on the pale orc's glory box. -- maciliel telpemairo
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Brethil
Half-elven
Apr 27 2014, 2:09pm
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A necessary and worthy topic. Maybe CG can lead us off?
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Maciliel
Valinor
Apr 27 2014, 2:11pm
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"Maybe CG can lead us off?"
hahahahahahaahahhahahahahaahahahahahaahhaahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahah!!!!
wait, i need a breather....
hahahaahahahahahhhahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahhah!
(whew!)
cheers (still laughing) --
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aka. fili orc-enshield
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the scene, as i understand it, is exceptionally well-written. fili (in sort of a callback to the scene with the eagles), calls out "thorRIIIIIIN!!!" just as he sees the pale orc veer in for the kill. he picks up the severed arm of an orc which is lying on the ground, swings it up in desperation, effectively blocking the pale orc's blow. and thus, forever after, fili is known as "fili orc-enshield."
this earns him deep respect from his hard-to-please uncle. as well as a hug. kili wipes his boots on the pale orc's glory box. -- maciliel telpemairo
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Elarie
Grey Havens
Apr 27 2014, 2:33pm
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What! Has it been more than 10 minutes since we talked about Thorin and RA?
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OK, OK, here's a link to a fan who sneaked out the back door at WonderCon and got to chat with RA:
http://rafrenzy.com/2014/04/25/an-audience-with-richard-armitage/
Hop to it, Radagast, we've got dark powers to sleigh.
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Maciliel
Valinor
Apr 27 2014, 2:34pm
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10 whole minutes? torn should be ashamed. especially brethil.
cheers --
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aka. fili orc-enshield
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the scene, as i understand it, is exceptionally well-written. fili (in sort of a callback to the scene with the eagles), calls out "thorRIIIIIIN!!!" just as he sees the pale orc veer in for the kill. he picks up the severed arm of an orc which is lying on the ground, swings it up in desperation, effectively blocking the pale orc's blow. and thus, forever after, fili is known as "fili orc-enshield."
this earns him deep respect from his hard-to-please uncle. as well as a hug. kili wipes his boots on the pale orc's glory box. -- maciliel telpemairo
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Otaku-sempai
Immortal
Apr 27 2014, 2:43pm
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The Rulers of the Woodland Realm?
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Does anyone suspect that there could be a lost genealogy for the Rulers of the Woodland Realm of Mirkwood? It would be great to have more data on Legolas, Thranduil and his queen, Oropher and his spouse, and any siblings who have not been previously documented.
'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring
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noWizardme
Half-elven
Apr 27 2014, 3:00pm
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Squire: did you have a serious discussion in mind re the virgin thing? Tis Virgin on the ridiculous already :)
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ever let your aim be to come at truth, not to conquer your opponent. So you never shall be at a loss in losing the argument, and gaining a new discovery.
Arthur Martine
"nowimė I am in the West, Furincurunir to the Dwarves (or at least, to their best friend) and by other names in other lands. Mostly they just say 'Oh no it's him - look busy!' "
Or "Hold off! unhand me, grey-beard loon!"
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malickfan
Gondor
Apr 27 2014, 3:08pm
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I don't think the Talking Purse ever got the in depth discussion he/she deserved...
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For the life of me I can't recall the last time anyone mentioned it...
On a serious note, although I barely post in the RR, I think most of the obvious subjects in the books have been discussed, but discussion about them seems to be a different matter. I can't recall any detailed discussion of:
Artwork:Tolkien's description/his own imagery vs interpretation by others e.g Do Alan Lee's drastically different illustrations for The Hobbit complement the story/Tolkien's own illustrations, or do they effect the way others read the narrative.
(Basically a general Artwork discussion)
Tolkien scholarship e.g a discussion of say The Road to Middle Earth vs Verlyn Flieger's work-how different interpretations differ, and how we apply them to reading the book.
(Granted this is discussing other discussions so it may be, well, boring)
Or read through s of Tolkien's more minor works such as:
The Lay of Aotrou and Itroun, Tales From the Perilous Realm or Mr Bliss.
A general discussion of Tolkien's poetry-his style, influences, different drafts, and why everyone seems to hate it.
(A read Through of the complete collection of HOME would be a great candiate, as judging by my own attempts, it could keep us occupied for another 15 years...).
That's the beauty of Tolkien's work, even if everything has been succeed before, everyone reads his work differently so you 'never get the same answer twice'.
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Bracegirdle
Valinor
Apr 27 2014, 4:09pm
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Some possibly undiscussed topics ?
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Was The Forsaken Inn really forsaken or just a little lonely?
Was Amon Hen really overrun with chickens?
Did the lint in Frodos belly-button disappear when he wore The Ring?
Were there rainbow trout in The Swanfleet or just perch?
Did the Golden Perch at Stock have Lazy-boy chairs or just wooden benches?
Does the Watcher in the Water still live, sans a tentacle?
What is the significance of the moss on the north-side of the Argonath?
How many families returned from holiday on the Mainland to find Numenor gone?
Did Elanor really graft a talon on a Bonsai-tree?
On a scale of 1-10, how mad was Dain Ironfoot when he whacked-off Azogs head?
Did Nar really purchase a sapphire carcanet with the small bag of coins given him by Azog?
Really! I'm curious.... Thank you
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noWizardme
Half-elven
Apr 27 2014, 4:11pm
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We've also never discussed the following important matters
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Does Tom Bombadill have wings? If so, why doesn't he fly the Ring to Mordor?
What is canon? Can it shoot down Tom Bombadill?
Should you reboot if you get an Eru message?
Are Tom Bombadill's reboots yellow?
Who is an eagle, and does it have wings?
Is noWizardme taking the mickey? If so does the mickey have wings, and can it fly noWizardme to Mordor? And would it serve him right if he got shot down by a canon-wielding balrog with yellow reboots?
Is "fly you fools!" The advertising slogan of Eagle Airways?
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ever let your aim be to come at truth, not to conquer your opponent. So you never shall be at a loss in losing the argument, and gaining a new discovery.
Arthur Martine
"nowimė I am in the West, Furincurunir to the Dwarves (or at least, to their best friend) and by other names in other lands. Mostly they just say 'Oh no it's him - look busy!' "
Or "Hold off! unhand me, grey-beard loon!"
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Bracegirdle
Valinor
Apr 27 2014, 4:12pm
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Please no fighting.. be nice...
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"Surely you're not serious?" Yes, he's serious. And don't call him Shirley!
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Bracegirdle
Valinor
Apr 27 2014, 4:29pm
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Does Tom Bombadill have wings? If so, why doesn't he fly the Ring to Mordor? He just doesn't give a poop - never did. Untrustworthy fellow.What is canon? Can it shoot down Tom Bombadill? Negative! Bombadil is impregnantable.Are Tom Bombadill's reboots yellow?[ Only if he doesn't catch a virus. Is "fly you fools!" The advertising slogan of Eagle Airways? Eagle Airlines went under 3 months ago (you didn't know?). Landroval Airlines is the premiere form of travel, with a simple slogan "Greatest and Mightiest".
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