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"Under the Mountain dark and tall" song in the BOTFA? *speculation/book spoilers*

Arandir
Gondor


Apr 25 2014, 7:27pm

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I missed the Misty Mountains theme in The Desolation of Smaug, but I'm wondering whether we'll be getting yet another "dwarf singing moment".

I'm thinking of one scene in particular that takes place in the book.

As the Elves and Men besiege the Lonely Mountain, Thorin and his companions sing a song (as Tolkien remarks, very similar to the one sung in Bag End). This raises the party's spirits considerably, but Bilbo remains gloomy.

The first few verses run like this ...

Under the Mountain dark and tall
The King has come unto his hall!
His foe is dead, the Worm of Dread,
And ever so his foes shall fall.

The sword is sharp, the spear is long,
The arrow swift, the Gate is strong;
The heart is bold that looks on gold;
The dwarves no more shall suffer wrong.


If you sing it to the tune of the Misty Mountains theme, it has the same flow to it too (I've triedCrazy)

The scene in AUJ was really special and a highly introspective moment for each of the dwarves going on the adventure.

Now, having been through a lot, I could really see this new version playing out - as a quiet moment on the verge of the BOFA. A much darker, more sinister version would suit really well on the eve of the battle. It would also tie-in nicely throughout the whole trilogy - as if the theme has evolved from Film 1 to Film 3.

Pretty sure Howard Shore and his team are drafting a score to that right now Angelic

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Otaku-sempai
Half-elven


Apr 25 2014, 7:41pm

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As you say, Thorin's Dwarf-companions sing this to try to cheer him up. And it does fit the scheme of "Under the Misty Mountains Cold".

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


Shagrat
Gondor

Apr 25 2014, 7:43pm

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It would be a great way to re-implement the theme, so that we can get a grand rendition of it when the Dwarves charge out of the mountain. I'd hate not to hear it again.


There&ThereAgain
Rohan


Apr 25 2014, 7:46pm

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I hope in the DOS EE we get a freakin' song considering there were FIVE in An Unexpected Journey.

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Dcole4
Lorien

Apr 25 2014, 7:48pm

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I highly doubt they shot all those songs in AUJ and decided to skip over all of the ones in DOS. While I don't think we'll get one in Beorn's house, as in the book, I do think we may get lucky in Laketown.

I'd love to also get one for Feast of Starlight, if they do include something. Something tells me they won't. :(


Barrow-Wight
Rohan


Apr 26 2014, 12:47am

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As the Elves and Men besiege the Lonely Mountain, Thorin and his companions sing a song (as Tolkien remarks, very similar to the one sung in Bag End). This raises the party's spirits considerably, but Bilbo remains gloomy.

The first few verses run like this ...

Under the Mountain dark and tall
The King has come unto his hall!
His foe is dead, the Worm of Dread,
And ever so his foes shall fall.

The sword is sharp, the spear is long,
The arrow swift, the Gate is strong;
The heart is bold that looks on gold;
The dwarves no more shall suffer wrong.


Now, having been through a lot, I could really see this new version playing out - as a quiet moment on the verge of the BOFA.


I could see it being a scene like the one in TTT where Théoden recites the horse and the rider poem, they could show all the armies preparing for war while Thorin and co remain locked inside the mountain waiting it out then later as Shagrat said have it blare out triumphantly when they burst from Erebor to save the day!


(This post was edited by Barrow-Wight on Apr 26 2014, 12:48am)

 
 

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