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Lurker in the Mirk
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Apr 25 2014, 2:12am
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Fan of both books and movies. Oh, and it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment. Thranduil Appreciation: I, II, III
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Elessar
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Apr 25 2014, 2:39am
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a fanboy action thriller. Just because it has some action in it even a little more than the LOTR doesn't make it a fanboy action thriller. I'd give ya the Transformers films or something like that but not these films. Or even some of the Lucas stuff I find to be bordering on Hyperbole. The movie has action and CGI but neither are those comments.
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Bombadil
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Apr 25 2014, 2:49am
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Can we turn this WHOLE Thread into a Mini-SERIES?//
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SirDennisC
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Apr 25 2014, 2:52am
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Thank you Sir V. ... and Lurker too.
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Lurker in the Mirk
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Apr 25 2014, 3:03am
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And it will be titled "The War Addressing The Revisions And Titles") or thWaRT for short //
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Magpie
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Apr 25 2014, 3:11am
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I wouldn't have used that term. (I hate the term fanboy and fangirl) It's such a treacherous path... finding a way to express what can often be heartfelt opinions without treading on the toes of those who disagree with our opinions. I often look at past history and cut some people a lot of slack... and other people no slack at all. I, personally, would cut Elizabeth a lot of slack for her use of the term. I don't think she tosses those terms around loosely. Or at least not in my observation.
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Apr 25 2014, 3:15am
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Nice! Root beer for me, please.
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We playground monitors do appreciate some refreshment.
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Lurker in the Mirk
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Apr 25 2014, 3:21am
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Seriously, I do feel people should relax a little... especially when you think about the Transformers
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Afterall, unlike the Decepticons and Autobots, the LotR and TH movies did not get Michael Bayed or have some similar tragedy inflicted on them. That is something to be thankful for. And I am not saying this lightly. I grew up watching the Transformers cartoon, and I LOVED those robots. I was so looking forward to seeing a live-action movie on them. Yeah, the visuals were great, but since the first Bay Transformers, I have not watched any other Transformer movie. Yes, they are THAT bad. By comparison, even the cartoon series and the animated "Transformers: The Movie" (1986) are masterpieces. I wished time could be turned back and the Bay movies wiped out of existence, but keep the transformer visuals.
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Elessar
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Apr 25 2014, 3:25am
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I don't care for the term either. Its one that can be as far as pop culture go fairly offensive. It is. I know I try and fail at times with my own wording. I guess I've grown a little worn out with some of the ways people use certain terms. I agree and I'm not really upset with her. I was actually surprised she would use a term like that to be honest especially when referring to it as selling out, which I totally disagree with.
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Elessar
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Apr 25 2014, 3:34am
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The Transformers movies have all been for me what I expected. So I haven't walked away upset with them. They're not gonna win oscars for acting or anything but I've found all of them enjoyable but the are just plain cheese flicks that you sit back and give yourself a brain break. I find nothing like that at all in the same universe when it comes to The Hobbit.
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Imladris18
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Apr 25 2014, 3:35am
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I think BotFA has the best chance to hit all those marks if the previous 2 have not done so for you yet.
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Apr 25 2014, 3:36am
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I knew what awaited the minute Bay's name was attached.
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At that moment, I knew that it wasn't going to really be a Transformer movie. It was going to be a Michael Bay movie loosely using the general story points of the Transformers as a template. And that's exactly what we got. It was horrifying. I have my issues with the execution of The Hobbit on film, but at least we didn't that level of epic disaster thrust upon us.
"The danger with any movie that does as well as this one does is that the amount of money it's making and the number of awards that it's got becomes almost more important than the movie itself in people's minds. I look at that as, in a sense, being very much like the Ring, and its effect on people. You know, you can kind of forget what we were doing, if you get too wrapped up in that." - Viggo Mortensen
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Lurker in the Mirk
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Apr 25 2014, 3:46am
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I know! And I'm cringing... / /
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Fan of both books and movies. Oh, and it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment. Thranduil Appreciation: I, II, III
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Apr 25 2014, 3:50am
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I honestly wish fans of 80's cartoons could get some kind of legal injunction...
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...preventing Bay from getting his filthy hands on anymore of these beloved franchises. Somebody has to stop him.
"The danger with any movie that does as well as this one does is that the amount of money it's making and the number of awards that it's got becomes almost more important than the movie itself in people's minds. I look at that as, in a sense, being very much like the Ring, and its effect on people. You know, you can kind of forget what we were doing, if you get too wrapped up in that." - Viggo Mortensen
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Lurker in the Mirk
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Apr 25 2014, 3:52am
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The sad thing is, I wanted to see live-action transformers so much, I left all standards at the door
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And regretted it. I tried sitting through No 2 when it was on free-to-air broadcast, but nope, did not last 5 mins; not ever again will I watch one of these while they are under Bay. I cannot fathom how he can get to no 4 and still plans on 5 and 6? Exactly. At least we got movie adaptations that the book-lovers can also enjoy without wanting to lynch PJ... well, at least for some of us
I have my issues with the execution of The Hobbit on film, but at least we didn't that level of epic disaster thrust upon us.
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tsmith675
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Apr 25 2014, 4:05am
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The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies.
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The Hobbit: There and Back Again The Hobbit: The Battle of Five Armies The Hobbit: Into the Fire I like The Battle of the Five Armies as a title more than just The Battle of Five Armies. Into the Fire would not have been a good girls. There and Back Again just didn't make sense for the third film. There and Back Again will be perfect as the entire trilogy being The Hobbit: There and Back Again. I love that. Let's just face it: The Hobbit: The Battle of the Five Armies is the title that makes the most sense.
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Apr 25 2014, 4:14am
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Raise your hand if you feel like you overreacted a little bit at this news. *raises hand*
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Wow. I got quite snippy at PJ & the films in my earlier posts, didn't I? The Hobbit trilogy hasn't been all I'd hoped for, but I've quite enjoyed it (especially AUJ EE and DoS). Just goes to show how temper (today was a mess of incredible proportion for me) and negativity can lead to overreaction. I don't care for the title, but what the hey - it's a title. The whole thing is The Hobbit: or There and Back Again anyway. So be it. The best news of the day is definitely about the EE of DoS. I can't wait to see what was added back in (and what new music Shore has cooked up!). Though AUJ didn't have much added back in, IMO the theatrical cut already had some stuff that would typically have been saved for the EE. And now (er, since December that is), with the additions put back in, the film feels quite well balanced. I'm hoping for some material that will slow down DoS a touch and allow some breathing room for character development. The film was a bit too breathless in spots (no doubt making up for the slower pace of AUJ). The film did have some poignant moments between characters, and I'd like to see that greatly expanded upon in the EE.
"The danger with any movie that does as well as this one does is that the amount of money it's making and the number of awards that it's got becomes almost more important than the movie itself in people's minds. I look at that as, in a sense, being very much like the Ring, and its effect on people. You know, you can kind of forget what we were doing, if you get too wrapped up in that." - Viggo Mortensen
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cats16
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Apr 25 2014, 4:30am
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I read the post again, in case he did say that. Understand you perfectly.
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cats16
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Apr 25 2014, 4:55am
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Glad to hear you've finished it! Can't wait to hear details when the time comes.
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morgul lord
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Apr 25 2014, 5:37am
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(Disappointed) thoughts on BOFA, BOTFA, and TABA...
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I won't get into it, but I thought There And Back Again was a perfect title. It was always my favourite of the 3 by far, and I couldn't wait... and now it'll never be called that. But my main complaint is this extremely long, clunky title that doesn't roll off the tongue. The worst part is the extra "THE". I could probably get used to The Hobbit: The Battle of Five Armies (BOFA)... but The Hobbit: The Battle of THE Five Armies (BOTFA) is just ridiculously bad. Also, please STOP saying how great it is that There And Back Again will be the title of the trilogy. Because I've got news for you... IT WON'T. No one will EVER call it that. It's already called The Hobbit trilogy, and that's what it will always be called. There And Back Again will not catch on, or become common usage. Nor does it appear as a subtitle on the screen. So at MOST, it might be printed on the box of a future box set. But no, There And Back Again will never become the title of the trilogy, except in maybe a technical official sense that no one ever says. I generally trust PJ and give him the benefit of the doubt, and I'll get used to this eventually, but I honestly disagree with him this time. Despite his reasoning, I think he chose a much worse title.
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Aragorn the Elfstone
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Apr 25 2014, 5:49am
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For the longest time, I mistakenly thought the battle was called "The Battle of THE Five Armies". When I found out that I had added the extra "the" in my head, I was never able to adjust to saying it the correct way and it felt clunky to me. Funny world, eh? In point of fact, I would have preferred TABA as the title - but what's done is done. As for it never actually being used as a title for the trilogy - true enough, but everybody calls the book "The Hobbit" as well. "There and Back Again" is present on one of the opening pages, but I doubt many readers even register that honestly. To me, the trilogy will be The Hobbit, or There and Back Again - official or no. In the world according to me, it is so.
"The danger with any movie that does as well as this one does is that the amount of money it's making and the number of awards that it's got becomes almost more important than the movie itself in people's minds. I look at that as, in a sense, being very much like the Ring, and its effect on people. You know, you can kind of forget what we were doing, if you get too wrapped up in that." - Viggo Mortensen
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Lurker in the Mirk
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Apr 25 2014, 7:03am
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But well, I did not expect the intensity of the mutation Bay did on... and the abject purile nature of the script. Well, yeah, I was not expecting any award winning moments, and I can leave my brain at the door as well as the next person and just enjoy the action, which I will admit, I did. But when my brain starts liquifying even when it's not in the theatre with me, that's a very big sign to bail.
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Lurker in the Mirk
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Apr 25 2014, 7:07am
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Fan of both books and movies. Oh, and it seems I have severely misnamed myself... for the moment. Thranduil Appreciation: I, II, III
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