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Blue Wizards con There and Back Again?!?!?!

Eruthurin
Rivendell


Apr 23 2014, 4:02pm

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Blue Wizards con There and Back Again?!?!?! Can't Post

I been told at the Tolkien Society Facebook page that Ray Romano signed for the role of Pallando, Is that true? anyone with reliable sources from the Production can give some light here?....Shocked The guy says he's personal friend of the actor and he was told that by Ray himself... is it true or he was victim of a joke from Romano?

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Faleel
Rohan


Apr 23 2014, 4:46pm

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I don't believe it for one second.


Eruthurin
Rivendell


Apr 23 2014, 5:02pm

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He sounded very convinced of what he says, but it sounds like a joke for me!... Srlsy, I like Ray Romano and his shows but nothing to do with this world, i think... just wanted to be sure...

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bungobaggins
Lorien

Apr 23 2014, 6:00pm

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You really think someone would do that, [In reply to] Can't Post

Just go on the internet and tell lies?


wonderinglinguist
Lorien

Apr 23 2014, 6:17pm

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Reminds me of [In reply to] Can't Post

a line from an old State Farm commercial: "They can't put anything on the internet that isn't true" Wink

keep smiling Smile


Bofur01
Lorien

Apr 23 2014, 7:03pm

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PJ and co. don't have the rights to the Unfinished Tales... [In reply to] Can't Post

And that's why Gandalf had "forgotten" the Blue Wizards' names in AUJ...


burgahobbit
Rohan


Apr 23 2014, 7:12pm

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They've already stretched it by mentioning them at all. It was okay to say that there were five wizards, and thus that there were two other wizards besides Gandalf, Saruman, and Radagast, because all of that is in the LOTR books. But the whole blue thing is Unfinished Tales material.

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Name
Rohan


Apr 23 2014, 7:31pm

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Wow! [In reply to] Can't Post

Just saw that Brad Garrett signed on as Allatar!

How many Tolkien fans does it take to change a light bulb?

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MouthofSauron
Tol Eressea


Apr 23 2014, 9:20pm

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Damn, I wish this was true [In reply to] Can't Post

Be great to see them battling it out in dol-guldur!

The flames of war are upon you.

(This post was edited by MouthofSauron on Apr 23 2014, 9:21pm)


Eruthurin
Rivendell


Apr 23 2014, 9:21pm

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The Tolkien Society FB group is not any given public page googling, it's a closed group, most of the people there official members like me, and mostly more serious content.... that's why am asking here too....

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painjoiker
Grey Havens


Apr 24 2014, 12:11am

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It's in the appendix [In reply to] Can't Post

It is mentioned in LotR that the two other wizards were blue.
It's only their names and their errands that is off-limits to the film makers Wink

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ghost_matt
Rivendell

Apr 24 2014, 2:45am

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I thought the two blue wizards disappeared into the east and formed cults or something? No way they would return and fight on the side of the good guys.


Morthoron
Gondor


Apr 24 2014, 3:47am

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In the immortal words of Abraham Lincoln.... [In reply to] Can't Post

"The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity." -- A. Lincoln, 1864

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MouthofSauron
Tol Eressea


Apr 24 2014, 4:23am

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off limits? [In reply to] Can't Post

these movies make billions and give millions to the Tolkien estate, i don't see why PJ should be scared of Christopher Tolkien.

The flames of war are upon you.


Elciryamo
Rivendell

Apr 24 2014, 5:27am

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Because copyright violation suits are expensive [In reply to] Can't Post

Not to drag this thread in to a CT vs PJ debate, because it should not be. However, the last thing that anybody wants is another law suit between the two, because that would mar profitability and publicity.

It is not worthwhile to try and challenge the copyright holders in this instance. Just bad business.

As much as I would like to see the Blue Wizards, their appearance in the Hobbit, besides the copyright thing, doesn't make sense based on what little Tolkien actually wrote about them. There are already too many characters, with at least one more to be introduced in TABA, so this change feels very unlikely.


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Apr 24 2014, 4:08pm

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I thought the two blue wizards disappeared into the east and formed cults or something? No way they would return and fight on the side of the good guys.



JRR Tolkien never decided whether the two Blue Wizards wholly failed in their mission(s) or if they at least partially succeeded. He came up with scenarios based on both premises.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


Ostadan
Rivendell

Apr 25 2014, 5:35pm

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"The problem with quotes on the Internet is that it is hard to verify their authenticity." -- A. Lincoln, 1864



And so it went. Tens of thousands of messages, hundreds of points of view. It was not called the Net of a Million Lies for nothing. -- Vernor Vinge

 
 

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