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Where can you see Thorin having an Epic Battle Speech in Taba?

Thorins_apprentice
Rohan


Apr 12 2014, 9:09pm

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Where can you see Thorin having an Epic Battle Speech in Taba? Can't Post

From Théoden to Aragorn to Gandalf ,we got our fair share of Epic speeches in Return of the king and seeing how this is Pjs last Tolkien movie, i can see Thorin rallying up his Dwarven companions somewhere in the film.Where do you think it could be appropriate?

Also, who else in the movie would you like see have an epic battle speech.? They are indeed a pivotal thing to cinema especially Battle sequences and raise tension ,so this should be interesting

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(This post was edited by Thorins_apprentice on Apr 12 2014, 9:10pm)


Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Grey Havens


Apr 12 2014, 9:59pm

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Richard said [In reply to] Can't Post

that dwarves filmed the moment when they pop put of the mountain in armour and attack, I guess that is the moment it will happen, if it happens

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Avandel
Valinor

Apr 12 2014, 10:27pm

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Can imagine it [In reply to] Can't Post

From the walls of Erebor, the maddened (but not lost) Thorin rallying his company, the Heirs of Durin and the Company making the choice to go down fighting rather than see Erebor overrun, that magnificent voice rallying the dwarves, elves, men, a suicidal charge, Beorn exploding across the battlefield slaying as he charges.

Almost makes up for how upset I personally will be *sigh*.Unsure

"Richard Armitage’s performance has been one of the best things about the new trilogy, making you believe that a hairy dwarf, so often the comedy element of the LOTR films, can be a heroic, tortured, and dangerous badass." - Den of Geek, The Hobbit: There & Back Again, 7 Apr 2014 - 07:07


boldog
Rohan


Apr 12 2014, 10:45pm

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Bard doing a speech to hearten the men of laketown as they are clearly the most vulnerable.Also is love to see a speech by Azog. It would beggoos to see an evil inspiring speech. That would be a first

I believe that Azog and Bolg are possibly the only two orcs who may be an exception to the typical evil nature of an orc. Azog had brought up his son, well enough that he actually acknowledges him as his own son. That is a first for any orc. And Bolg sets out to march upon Erebor in vengeance of his fathers death. How many orcs will Try and avenge another dead orc? Most will just forget about the dead one. This gives me hope that Orcs, have some traits of good in them, even if it is small aspects.


demnation
Rohan

Apr 13 2014, 12:18am

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No speech, I hope [In reply to] Can't Post

I do hope to hear the simple "To me, Elves and Men,...." line.

"It is not our part to master all the tides of the world, but to do what is in us for the succour of those years wherein we are set, uprooting the evil in the fields that we know, so that those who live after may have clean earth to till. What weather they shall have is not ours to rule." Gandalf, "The Last Debate."


Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
Grey Havens


Apr 13 2014, 1:49am

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I´m waiting for a terrific Du Bekar! [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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tsmith675
Gondor


Apr 13 2014, 2:00am

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Whenever it is, it better give me chills.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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RandomSilvanElf
The Shire


Apr 14 2014, 10:37am

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I'm not sure if Thorin is the right one for it. [In reply to] Can't Post

As far as I remember, in the it was elves that first jumped into battle, driven by their hatred for goblins, and they were lead by Thranduil. I think it will be an interesting development for "I don't care for anyone outside my kindom" Elvenking ( If it's stolen by some other irrelevant in the story elf, I'll be very, very sad) It's also the moment when Bilbo decides that he prefers to stand with the "noble Elvenking" to protect him, it was hilarious and adorable for me in the book, I wonder if there's any chance they will use that in the movie.

The Bard also deserves a chance to shine as the new hero of Men - especially if you consider what just happened to them with the Smaug attack, they are the one that will need the most strength and encouragement to fight.

Let's not forget that the leader of dwarf army is Dain, not Thorin, and if anyone should rally the dwarfs it's him.

What I'm really looking forward to is all the diplomatics before the battle, first with Thorin about the treasure. But even more between the three above-mentioned characters, when the goblins arrive. For me it's the crucial moment in the story, when the 3 races of Middle Earth decide to fight together, instead against each other. Which one will be the first to tell they should unite? Who will be hero of the hour? Maybe it's Dain role?

It's hard to have one speech for the whole army with so many distinctive leaders- unless it will be Gandalf to do the speech. Or if we are lucky, we will get each of them to speak to their forces.

As for Thorin, I think at that point he will be preoccupied with his personal struggles, he should be pretty crazy by then. Then of course when the battle starts, he should jump in and do something MAJESTIC to redeem himself and make everyone admire and forgive him.


(This post was edited by RandomSilvanElf on Apr 14 2014, 10:44am)


Otaku-sempai
Half-elven


Apr 14 2014, 2:53pm

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The first engagement of the battle. [In reply to] Can't Post

A number of the "few brave men" who were strung before the goblin wolf-riders to make a feint of resistance were the first to fall. The first charge of the Elves started soon after that. Thorin and his companions entered the battle at around the half-way point, before the entrance of the Eagles.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


RandomSilvanElf
The Shire


Apr 14 2014, 2:58pm

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Thanks for correcting. [In reply to] Can't Post

And actually it would make much sense if they did that way in the movie as well.

Still I can wait to hear all of that negotiations - it's a place for some good acting to show.


Otaku-sempai
Half-elven


Apr 14 2014, 4:03pm

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The movie has to factor Azog in as well. [In reply to] Can't Post

I suspect that Azog will lead the first wave of Orcs in the attack. Bolg can command the force that surges into the valley afterward (just in time to see his father killed) that turns the battle back into the Orcs' favor until the entrance of Beorn.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


Rickster
Rohan

Apr 14 2014, 11:06pm

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I hope he will not speak [In reply to] Can't Post

Let him be silent in the movie so we can remember the words in the first two movies as his final words.
They were fantastic
I hope we hear a lot from Sauroman


Otaku-sempai
Half-elven


Apr 15 2014, 3:57am

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That's a dat unrealistic. [In reply to] Can't Post


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Let him be silent in the movie so we can remember the words in the first two movies as his final words.
They were fantastic
I hope we hear a lot from Sauroman



I think we can at least expect Thorin to rally his allies as he does in the book. Also, his final words should be those spoken to Bilbo after the battle.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring

 
 

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