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Alternative title for DOS?

BlackFox
Half-elven


Apr 14 2014, 8:50am

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If you were asked to come up with an alternative title for DOS, what would you go for? Smile


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NecromancerRising
Gondor


Apr 14 2014, 9:18am

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TheHutt
Gondor


Apr 14 2014, 9:43am

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Something with the book chapter names... [In reply to] Can't Post

like "Inside Information".

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DaughterofLaketown
Gondor


Apr 14 2014, 12:11pm

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Eleniel
Tol Eressea


Apr 14 2014, 12:22pm

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Such a shame about the rights... [In reply to] Can't Post

The Quest of Erebor" would have been perfect...


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¯ Victoria Monfort


(This post was edited by Eleniel on Apr 14 2014, 12:30pm)


Annatar598
Rohan


Apr 14 2014, 12:24pm

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Hmmm [In reply to] Can't Post

- Into the Mountain

- The Quest for Erebor

I really think The Desolation of Smaug is an epic and insanely cool title. Perfect choice IMO.

"[Annatar598] is an overzealous apologist [for PJ]" - Certain TORn member.

Really? Alright...

Well, proud to be one I guess.


Noria
Gondor

Apr 14 2014, 12:26pm

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It's alliterative, and Tolkien as himself puts it...

"They were come to the Desolation of the Dragon, and they were come at the waning of the year."

I always loved those words.


TheHutt
Gondor


Apr 14 2014, 12:34pm

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Same.... [In reply to] Can't Post


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I really think The Desolation of Smaug is an epic and insanely cool title. Perfect choice IMO.


All other alternatives (also from here) sound a little bit cheap in comparison.

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Annatar598
Rohan


Apr 14 2014, 12:36pm

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It's my favourite titles of the six films [In reply to] Can't Post

Even people who didn't like it at least thought the title was cool.

"[Annatar598] is an overzealous apologist [for PJ]" - Certain TORn member.

Really? Alright...

Well, proud to be one I guess.


tsmith675
Gondor


Apr 14 2014, 1:16pm

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Nothing is really better than DoS in my opinion. [In reply to] Can't Post

If it had stuck to two films, I think An Unexpected Journey and There and Back Again were absolutely perfect names for them. But as a trilogy, I can't think of a better name for the second chapter than The Desolation of Smaug

Our destiny lies above us.


Darkstone
Immortal


Apr 14 2014, 1:59pm

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"Enter the Dragon" [In reply to] Can't Post

"Sneaking Hobbit, Hidden Dragon"
"The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Having Any Will to Live and Became Mixed-Up Dwarf-and Elf-Fodder"
"Don't Be a Menace to South Mirkwood While Drinking Your Juice in Dol Guldur"
"G.I. Dwarf: The Rise of the Necromancer"

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Brother will fight brother and both be his slayer,
brother and sister will violate all bonds of kinship;
hard it will be in the world, there will be much failure of honor,
an age of axes, an age of swords, where shields are shattered,
an age of winds, an age of wolves, where the world comes crashing down;
no man will spare another.

-From the Völuspá, 13th Century

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Elskidor
Rohan


Apr 14 2014, 2:09pm

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The Godfather IV


ghost_matt
Rivendell

Apr 14 2014, 2:56pm

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But I think DoS is the best title.


MasterOrc
Rivendell


Apr 14 2014, 3:09pm

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One simple word.. [In reply to] Can't Post

"GREED" ......treasure, gold, jewels, arkenstone, etc....surprised Exxon isn't involved Wink


BlackFox
Half-elven


Apr 14 2014, 3:33pm

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Perfect! [In reply to] Can't Post


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TheImaginator
Rivendell

Apr 14 2014, 4:25pm

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Personally, [In reply to] Can't Post

I would have loved it to be called "The Hobbit: The Road Goes Ever On". It captures the adventurous and endless feel of it. It makes the whole trilogy have really vague and nice adventure-y sounding titles. Gives them a sense of continuity too. "An Unexpected Journey, The Road Goes Ever On, There And Back Again". But I understand that it isn't the catchiest of titles.

At first I didn't like the title of DOS, especially straight after watching the film as there was hardly any of the desolation on it. I thought it was the most specific of all the films so far and that it didn't really capture the feel of the film. You have a film full of amazing lore and characters and themes and you name it after one specific location that isn't really even in the TE?! Now it's grown on me because, after the thinking about it, the way I see the title is:

Throughout the Middle Earth series and especially in this film we see a variation of creatures and cultures and locations and lives. Each one unique and striving and struggling in their own way. Beorn, Mirkwood, Woodland Realm, Laketown. All this amazing unique Middle Earth stuff. I think that what the title means is that, if the dragon is used effectively by Sauron and the quest does not commence and be a success, the whole land will become the Desolation of Smaug. All these unique amazing places we have explored will be destroyed by dragon fire.


malickfan
Gondor


Apr 14 2014, 5:10pm

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Following The Thorin: An Unexpected Rewrite, with 'I'm not sure If I want to go there and back again anymore' closing out the trilogy...








zalmoxis
Bree

Apr 14 2014, 5:35pm

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Perfect, [In reply to] Can't Post

I agree with you wholeheartedly.



Eleniel
Tol Eressea


Apr 14 2014, 5:50pm

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Nice one! // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
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Arannir
Valinor


Apr 14 2014, 8:29pm

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"The Quest for Erebor" [In reply to] Can't Post

Or "The Gathering of the Clouds".

"The Road Goes Ever On" is also a nice hint... and would have been a feast to mis-use for some critics ;)

But DoS is quite good.


“All good stories deserve embellishment."

Praise is subjective. And so is criticism.

"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at."

(This post was edited by Arannir on Apr 14 2014, 8:34pm)


Werde Spinner
Rohan


Apr 14 2014, 11:47pm

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'The Desolation of Smaug' is IMHO an awesome title. [In reply to] Can't Post

So I really wouldn't want to change it. As the name of a place and with its structure, I thought it sounded better alongside the names of the LOTR trilogy than did 'There And Back Again' and 'An Unexpected Journey'. *ducks things thrown at me* I'm fully aware 'There And Back Again' is the subtitle of the book!


However, if we're not going for serious alternative titles here, I suggest my favorite out of the ones I've seen on the Internet: "The Desolation of Dwalin's Patience." Every time Dwalin growls at somebody, I have to giggle a little and whisper it to myself. Laugh

"I had forgotten that. It is hard to be sure of anything among so many marvels. The world is all grown strange. Elf and Dwarf in company walk in our daily fields; and folk speak with the Lady of the Wood and yet live; and the Sword comes back to war that was broken in the long ages ere the fathers of our fathers rode into the Mark! How shall a man judge what to do in such times?"

"As he ever has judged. Good and ill have not changed since yesteryear; nor are they one thing among Elves and Dwarves and another among Men. It is a man's part to discern them, as much in the Golden Wood as in his own house."


MouthofSauron
Tol Eressea


Apr 15 2014, 3:39am

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