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Unfinished Tales Discussion: The Druedain

Brethil
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Mar 24, 12:14pm


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Greetings Fellowship of the Room!
Squire has offered us much wonderful material to discuss, and here I am adding more! This week's chapter is The Druedain: a mysterious people who exist on the fringe of the societies of Men. Sometimes mysterious shadowy figures, sometimes an accepted part of a larger society: but never absorbed and always unique, from their biology to their culture and skills. So let's set off, and se if we can uncover some truths and insights on these people who we see just outside the action in LOTR.




The People of Haleth: a people apart. To start with, the people that seem to have bonded the most with the Druedain (and I do love discussing them in any case!)


I find the single (Note 2) reference to 'Amazonian' culture interesting - but I wonder if JRRT had another, geographically closer society in mind for modelling Haleth and her Atani? Especially since we know his original conceit was to create a mythos for England.


The woman warrior in Haleth's Atani is quite competant (especially in wood warfare) but again, not the classical, tightly organized medieval knight of the unit but instead more of a partisan, defending the homeland, more like the Iceni queen Boudicca (who though successful was ultimately defeated in battle by Roman formations). I wonder here if are there more parallels to the Iceni? Culturally the People of Haleth were similar in some ways to the Iceni of Eastern early AD Britain. A people that were rather half in and half out of modern society; negotating a treaty with the invading Romans but not cowed or resigned to the change in culture. Haleth's people seem to be half connected to Men yet cut off, standing aside - and the apparent first people to accept the Druedain into their society. And they eventually faded away (in the case of the Iceni, into the marshes), rather like Haleth's people seem to - similar to these (and the Iceni in particular) ancient tribes of Britain?

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                Wild men, noble savages and civilization noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Mar 25, 3:38pm
        Woses, Hobbits, and Halflings Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Mar 25, 2:30pm
            Possibly... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Mar 25, 11:32pm
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        Sador the Wose CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Mar 24, 8:46pm
            How did Gandalf miss them? Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Mar 24, 11:06pm
                Do we know Gandalf did miss them? noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Mar 25, 3:43pm
                    True my friend, we don't know either way... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Mar 25, 11:51pm
                        I suspect they were left out of the equation CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Mar 26, 12:05am
                            All Devilish-advocating aside... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Mar 26, 12:20am
                            A chance-meeting, as we say in Middle-earth Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Mar 26, 1:37am
        Shoot first, ask questions later... Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Mar 25, 2:44pm
            Druedain and other races Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Mar 25, 11:40pm
    The people apart from the people apart CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Mar 24, 8:13pm
        Druedain, men and Halloween costumes Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Mar 24, 10:53pm
            The Druedain in year-round costumes. Ready for any party! CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Mar 24, 11:17pm
                Hador:Drug::Bree:Hobbits. Very true Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Mar 24, 11:40pm
                Numenor and surfing. You did say 'silly'. Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Mar 24, 11:59pm
                    Argonath explained CuriousG Send a private message to CuriousG Mar 25, 12:59am
                        So THAT'S why they choose NZ!!!! Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Mar 25, 2:27pm
                        Explaining the Argonath Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Mar 25, 11:57pm
                        The Argonath: isn't it "I'm admiring my nice new Ring" // noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Mar 26, 7:18am
    Woses = Picts? Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Mar 24, 8:41pm
        Picts and Woses Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Mar 24, 11:01pm
            So, did Tolkien envision the Woses as ancestors of the Picts? Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Mar 26, 7:45pm
                Agreed O-S Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Mar 26, 11:55pm
    I'm already late to the next discussion, so I might as well begin answering this one. sador Send a private message to sador Apr 1, 6:32pm

 
 
 

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