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Of the Unionof Elves and Men

HeWhoArisesinMight
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Mar 22, 11:55pm


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Of the three confirmed unions of elves and men, only in one are both partners in the couple allowed to become immortal.

Beren-Luthien (female elf becomes mortal and dies)
Elessar-Arwen (female elf becomes mortal and dies)
Tuor-Idril (man becomes immortal and lives happily ever after with elf maiden)

Any reason why Arwen and Luthien had to become mortal and not Idril? Arwen's end seems very tragic to me as she dies alone and forsaken (and probably forgotten).

If I recall correctly, there was some special dispensation for Tuor... but why not far the others?

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Of the Unionof Elves and Men HeWhoArisesinMight Send a private message to HeWhoArisesinMight Mar 22, 11:55pm
    I can't speak for Tuor, Cillendor Send a private message to Cillendor Mar 23, 6:34am
    Earendil and Elwing don't count? Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Mar 23, 3:45pm
    It's about time they got organized noWizardme Send a private message to noWizardme Mar 23, 4:06pm
        Unless Valinor is a right-to-work-state HeWhoArisesinMight Send a private message to HeWhoArisesinMight Mar 24, 12:26am
    Well, I'm going to be THAT guy and bring this topic up... Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Mar 23, 7:07pm
    Thought I read that Tolkien did not EomundDaughter Send a private message to EomundDaughter Mar 23, 7:54pm
        I agree with you about Arwen. Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Mar 23, 11:53pm
            Elven reincarnation Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Mar 24, 12:14pm
            Arwen died soon after Aragorn Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Mar 24, 12:57pm
                She died the following winter. Bracegirdle Send a private message to Bracegirdle Mar 29, 6:11pm
                    What interpretation? Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Mar 29, 10:35pm
                        I think we're in agreement Bracegirdle Send a private message to Bracegirdle Mar 30, 3:13am
            Another question here... EomundDaughter Send a private message to EomundDaughter Mar 24, 1:32pm
                Responsibilities? Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Mar 24, 6:08pm
                    Getting back to the original post IdrilLalaith Send a private message to IdrilLalaith Mar 25, 4:33am
                        certainty Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Mar 25, 12:05pm
                            Definitely agree on the possibility IdrilLalaith Send a private message to IdrilLalaith Mar 26, 3:01am
                                How about Gandalf? Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Mar 26, 7:59am
                                    Gandalf the ghostly Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Mar 26, 12:41pm
                                I do not think so.... Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Mar 26, 8:21pm
            Cerin Amroth and a reunion with a revenant? Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Mar 25, 2:06pm
            A bitter pill Bracegirdle Send a private message to Bracegirdle Mar 29, 5:15pm
                Arwen, if you need a sleep aid Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Mar 29, 6:41pm
                    She is 78.13% Elven Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Mar 29, 7:01pm
                    Who's Peredhil ? Bracegirdle Send a private message to Bracegirdle Mar 29, 9:49pm
                        The Quenya version Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Mar 30, 3:33am
                            The old version. :) Bracegirdle Send a private message to Bracegirdle Mar 30, 9:17am
                                my emoticon failed Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Mar 30, 12:24pm
                                    Okee Doakee Bracegirdle Send a private message to Bracegirdle Mar 30, 3:46pm
                                        Blonde horses Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Mar 30, 5:42pm
                                            Silvery Grey Horses Bracegirdle Send a private message to Bracegirdle Mar 30, 6:31pm
                                                pulling on a thread may cause holes in one's garment Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Mar 31, 11:58am
                        Elven Rights Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Mar 30, 9:20pm
                            This brings up an interesting point IdrilLalaith Send a private message to IdrilLalaith Mar 31, 3:19am
                                More. . . immortality.... Bracegirdle Send a private message to Bracegirdle Mar 31, 4:01am
                                    Lucky Luthien? Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Mar 31, 2:16pm
                                Well, IIRC... Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Mar 31, 1:54pm
                                    Finrod and reincarnation Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Mar 31, 4:20pm
                                        Ah yes. Thank-you. Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Apr 1, 1:10am
                                            reincarnation Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Apr 2, 1:19pm
                            Who's got the right Bracegirdle Send a private message to Bracegirdle Mar 31, 3:42am
                                Opinions are just fine! Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Mar 31, 2:05pm
                            What about Elrohir and Elladan? HeWhoArisesinMight Send a private message to HeWhoArisesinMight Mar 31, 2:31pm
                                Speculation is fun!! Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Mar 31, 2:43pm
                                Plenty of Elves left around. Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Mar 31, 6:20pm
                                    There is no evidence, though, that Elrond's sons could have their choice postponed. Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Mar 31, 8:26pm
                                        Except according to Tolkien Elizabeth Send a private message to Elizabeth Mar 31, 8:40pm
                                            Well... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Mar 31, 8:49pm
                                                dating the evidence Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Apr 2, 12:54pm
                                                    It is, indeed, known. Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Apr 2, 7:46pm
                                                        first edition versus second Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Apr 2, 9:52pm
                                            Absence of evidence doesn't mean evidence of absence HeWhoArisesinMight Send a private message to HeWhoArisesinMight Mar 31, 10:06pm

 
 
 

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