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Why is the troll in ROTK funny?

Annatar598
Rohan


Mar 5 2014, 3:16am

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Why is the troll in ROTK funny? Can't Post

Stupid question but It's been annoying me for a long time!

The troll that reacts to the huge rock that the Gondorian trebuchets hurl directly at Gothmog is funny... But why? I don't really get the scene. Gothmog steps away just in time and the stone lands on... the troll's foot?

Help!

"[Annatar598] is an overzealous apologist [for PJ]" - Certain TORn member.

Really? Alright...

Well, proud to be one I guess.


Werde Spinner
Rohan


Mar 5 2014, 3:32am

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If it makes you feel better [In reply to] Can't Post

...I have NEVER understood that scene, either. I've always assumed that the troll's blank look in response to Gothmog's hypocrisy in order his troops to stand still and yet moving himself was supposed to be funny, but that doesn't make much sense. I don't think trolls are capable of grasping hypocrisy.


Does the stone land on the troll's foot? That would make much more sense. If so, it should show the troll kicking it off or something. Crazy

"I had forgotten that. It is hard to be sure of anything among so many marvels. The world is all grown strange. Elf and Dwarf in company walk in our daily fields; and folk speak with the Lady of the Wood and yet live; and the Sword comes back to war that was broken in the long ages ere the fathers of our fathers rode into the Mark! How shall a man judge what to do in such times?"

"As he ever has judged. Good and ill have not changed since yesteryear; nor are they one thing among Elves and Dwarves and another among Men. It is a man's part to discern them, as much in the Golden Wood as in his own house."


Annatar598
Rohan


Mar 5 2014, 3:59am

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Ah that's interesting [In reply to] Can't Post

I think I'll stick to your interpretation...

I don't think it lands on the foot now, upon closer inspection.

Still, as you said, can trolls comprehend hypocrisy?

"[Annatar598] is an overzealous apologist [for PJ]" - Certain TORn member.

Really? Alright...

Well, proud to be one I guess.


DanielLB
Immortal


Mar 5 2014, 7:54am

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It's just a disgruntled and incredulous sound ... [In reply to] Can't Post

Probably induced by the fact he (or she) didn't expect the boulder to miss Gothmog. I don't think the Troll finds it funny.

It also doesn't land on the Trolls foot - the Troll isn't next to Gothmog at the time.



Loresilme
Valinor


Mar 6 2014, 1:30pm

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I thought it was in reaction to the boulder missing Gothmog [In reply to] Can't Post

How Gothmog just stands there until the last second and then moves aside and spits on it. I thought it was supposed to be a sort of "Gothmog-is-a-bad-a**" type of moment and reaction.


Darkstone
Immortal


Mar 6 2014, 3:00pm

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"Where the heck did THAT come from????" [In reply to] Can't Post

I always thought it indicated that the troll wasn't exactly the brightest crayon in Sauron's box. That is, connecting the cause of the firing of a trebuchet on the ramparts of Minas Tirith with the effect of a boulder crashing on the ground right next to him was a bit too abstract of a concept.

******************************************
Brothers, sisters,
I was Elf once.
We danced together
Under the Two Trees.
We sang as the soft gold of Laurelin
And the bright silver of Telperion,
Brought forth the dawn of the world.
Then I was taken.

Brothers, sisters,
In my torment I kept faith,
And I waited.
But you never came.
And when I returned you drew sword,
And when I called your names you drew bow.
Was my Eldar beauty all,
And my soul nothing?

So be it.
I will return your hatred,
And I am hungry.




Werde Spinner
Rohan


Mar 7 2014, 3:05pm

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This makes the most sense yet. [In reply to] Can't Post

It says in the Appendices that the Olog-hai (I read somewhere that this troll is supposed to belong to that group) are more intelligent than other types of trolls, but that's only relatively speaking. Tongue Dull crayons, all right.


I guess that means that Bert, William, and Tom are just troll Einsteins or something...

"I had forgotten that. It is hard to be sure of anything among so many marvels. The world is all grown strange. Elf and Dwarf in company walk in our daily fields; and folk speak with the Lady of the Wood and yet live; and the Sword comes back to war that was broken in the long ages ere the fathers of our fathers rode into the Mark! How shall a man judge what to do in such times?"

"As he ever has judged. Good and ill have not changed since yesteryear; nor are they one thing among Elves and Dwarves and another among Men. It is a man's part to discern them, as much in the Golden Wood as in his own house."


Calithilel
Bree

Mar 7 2014, 3:17pm

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I actually thought [In reply to] Can't Post

it was because Gothmog isnīt that fast when he walks, (I assume every orc in Mordor knows that xD) and then he managed to step out of the way in time.
So it came like a shocking for the troll.


Remus
Lorien


Mar 7 2014, 8:11pm

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I think [In reply to] Can't Post

the troll was like "oh no! that was close!" or "that was a close one!" kinda thing.

I wanna see a scene where we see Sauron walking the steps INSIDE of Bara-Dur and taking his seat upon his dark throne and summoning the eye, looking into the camera and then BAM! THE END.


-My thoughts on the best ending scene/post credit scene on TABA.


(This post was edited by Altaira on May 25 2014, 5:02pm)


Calithilel
Bree

Mar 7 2014, 10:26pm

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xD [In reply to] Can't Post

hahaha yes, either way the look of the troll always makes me laugh. :P


Bracegirdle
Grey Havens


Mar 21 2014, 12:00am

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Ouch! Said the troll's foot [In reply to] Can't Post

 
Three times - real fast..

It's a whole stone's throw to the stone troll's hole !! Smile

From World's End then he turned away,
and yearned again to find afar .
his home through shadows journeying,
and burning as an island star . . .

-Bilbo Baggins


Bracegirdle
Grey Havens


Mar 24 2014, 9:17pm

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Oh! [In reply to] Can't Post

The funniest line in the 1st H. movie.... (I know this is LOTR, just sneakin' in, sneakin' I say)

As the questers are about to escape Goblin Town the Great Goblin pops up and says, "What you gonna do now Wizard."
Gandalf whacks him in the head and slices open his belly..
The Great Goblin says, "That'll do it!"

Laughed till I cried....

From World's End then he turned away,
and yearned again to find afar .
his home through shadows journeying,
and burning as an island star . . .

-Bilbo Baggins

 
 

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