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Arandir
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Feb 25 2014, 10:06am
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My name's Arandir. And I'm addicted to Rhosgobel.
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There, I said it. I confess.
The feeling comes from way back before The Hobbit films, as I've always been interested in reading the little information we have about Radagast's abode.
Now, with Peter Jackson's vision, I'm simply in love with the place.
Not just the cluttered interior, with the rays of light peering through the dirty windows; but also its forest surroundings - that part of Mirkwood not yet completely affected by Dol Guldur's sickness.
The vibrant and contrasting colour hues of greens, browns and yellows, blending beautifully with the now-predominant orange and teal palette.
Even the design of Radagast's house is clever - the concept of the tree growing inside and splitting it in half.
The interior reminds me of Hagrid's shack from Harry Potter, yet here it's completely distinct, providing it's own atmosphere and reflection of Radagast's character.
I missed Rhosgobel in The Desolation of Smaug and found it difficult to accept there was such a small scene with it in An Unexpected Journey.
So much so that, that seqeuence with Radagast in Mirkwood has become one of my favourites from Film 1 and I relish every shot and every frame of it.
I'm desparately hoping to revisit it again sometime in There and Back Again.
My name's Arandir. And I'm addicted to Rhosgobel.
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Glorfindela
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Feb 25 2014, 11:44am
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I rather like it, too – as well as Beorn's house (even though we saw so little of it).
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Elarie
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Feb 25 2014, 2:02pm
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and it's wonderful to use the pause button to try and see all the props. Did you notice that his fireplace has no chimney? It's under the sink with a window behind it, so I'm guessing that Gandalf gave him a magic fire that doesn't make smoke.
I do struggle a little bit with one thing - I just want to get in there and clean and clean and clean and re-organize all those shelves. And then scrub that bird poo off of his face. Poor Radagast, it would take him weeks to find all of his stuff again.
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Otaku-sempai
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Feb 25 2014, 4:05pm
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Another interpretation of Rhosgobel
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The One Ring rpg depicts Rhosgobel a bit differently in the book The Heart of the Wild, as a Woodmen village protected by a tall hedge, with a longhouse in the center that serves as the villagers' Great Hall. Radagast's home is concealed within the compound in a copse of trees. I would include a picture, but I can't find one that I can upload.
'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring
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Werde Spinner
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Feb 25 2014, 5:13pm
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Doesn't Radagast have a little microscope of some sort?
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I could have sworn I saw one in pictures in one of the WETA books. Ever the naturalist, isn't he?  I bet he is Middle-earth's expert as far as biology, botany, and zoology goes. His love of Mirkwood/Greenwood the Great is just strewn all around his house. I'd love to go poking around in there, but I wouldn't move his stuff. If he's got any sort of organized chaos/method to his madness going on there, I wouldn't want to mess it up!
"I had forgotten that. It is hard to be sure of anything among so many marvels. The world is all grown strange. Elf and Dwarf in company walk in our daily fields; and folk speak with the Lady of the Wood and yet live; and the Sword comes back to war that was broken in the long ages ere the fathers of our fathers rode into the Mark! How shall a man judge what to do in such times?"
"As he ever has judged. Good and ill have not changed since yesteryear; nor are they one thing among Elves and Dwarves and another among Men. It is a man's part to discern them, as much in the Golden Wood as in his own house."
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Starglass
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Feb 25 2014, 5:20pm
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I went into the movie not knowing that Radagast was going to show up and having only a vague memory of the book, so he and his forest were a pleasant surprise.
I love all the little critters he has, especially those hedgehogs!!
You know the bird that flies up to Radagast to show him where the spiders came from? Is it just me, or does it look like an American Robin?
(Sorry for not posting a screen cap to show what I mean, I'm new here and didn't want to do it wrong).
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Otaku-sempai
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Feb 25 2014, 5:30pm
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Speaking of Role-playing Games
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It looks like Iron Crown's out-of-print Middle-earth Role Playing game (MERP) might have been the first to depict Rhosgobel as a cottage with a tree growing out of it. The below illustration is by Angus McBride:
I wonder if anyone at WETA is familiar with the game.
'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring
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Glorfindela
Valinor
Feb 25 2014, 5:45pm
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It does look like an American Robin, rather than the species found in the UK, which is more dumpy and less elongated (sweeter, I think). They got that wrong…
You know the bird that flies up to Radagast to show him where the spiders came from? Is it just me, or does it look like an American Robin?
(Sorry for not posting a screen cap to show what I mean, I'm new here and didn't want to do it wrong).
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EomundDaughter
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Feb 25 2014, 6:20pm
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seems to just be part of an incredible, beautiful living forest...have to think that some of my ancestors traveled through forests like that...
the bird poop might have had some use in magic!
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Bumblingidiot
Rohan
Feb 25 2014, 6:43pm
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My local pub has a working fireplace directly under the window.
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It's quite an old building (Victorian) and it's the first time I've come across that design. It took me a while to work out how it's constructed.
and it's wonderful to use the pause button to try and see all the props. Did you notice that his fireplace has no chimney? It's under the sink with a window behind it, so I'm guessing that Gandalf gave him a magic fire that doesn't make smoke.
"Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear."
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Arannir
Valinor
Feb 25 2014, 8:35pm
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There used to be a great idea for Rhosgobel on one of the artworks published for the never realized "The White Council" computer RPG (sigh).
But I do not seem to be able to find it anymore... the other artworks are worth a look, too though. Some interesting ideas for the WC meeting place, Fornost and others.
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Avandel
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Feb 25 2014, 9:07pm
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all these wonderful places and they need to do a leisurely camera tour through all of them - Laketown as well.
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Meneldor
Valinor
Feb 26 2014, 11:02pm
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Didn't that "robin" hover in midair to talk to Radagast?
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If so, it wasn't really a robin; they can't hover unless there's a strong headwind to keep them in place. I'm pretty sure that only hummingbirds and insects can do that.
They that go down to the sea in ships, that do business in great waters; These see the works of the Lord, and His wonders in the deep.
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Glorfindela
Valinor
Feb 26 2014, 11:15pm
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It was based on an American Robin
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I don't think any of the CGI creatures are exactly like the species are in our world. It is not clear what species the thrush is (Mistle or Song Thrush), for example. You are right – most birds cannot hover like hummingbirds.
If so, it wasn't really a robin; they can't hover unless there's a strong headwind to keep them in place. I'm pretty sure that only hummingbirds and insects can do that.
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Kim
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Feb 27 2014, 1:11am
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Yes, there's just so much to explore in the house, isn't there? And I agree with some other posters, it's similar to Beorn's house in that there's so much to see and not enough time to see it. Both of those sets are some of my favorite parts about the WETA design books too.
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QuackingTroll
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Feb 27 2014, 2:44am
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I don't want to get your hopes up
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...because this is unlikely, but when Gandalf sees the statue and sets of for the High Fells. It's never explained how Radagast ends up there. It's possible (but unlikely) that we could have a scene in the EE of Radagast in Rhosgobel receiving a message to meet in the High Fells.
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Starglass
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Feb 27 2014, 3:18am
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It just looks almost identical to an American Robin and each time I wonder why they picked that specific design.
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Eowyn of Penns Woods
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Feb 27 2014, 7:42pm
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That's the "rule", but I've seen it broken by determined birds.
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They can't do it well or for very long, but they can do it long enough to get what they want. Especially if what they want is peanutbutter from a holey log hanging from a tree, but the coolest example was a mockingbird hovering at the porch roof to drink from melting icicles! Nobody here beats the hummingbirds or even kestrels at it, but they do give it an olympic effort.
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