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Casting Choices

Elskidor
Rohan


Feb 3 2014, 6:41am

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Now, I stumbled up an odd bit of information that I was not aware of. Some of the people that were originally intended to star in these films are down right odd. I did not know Sean Connery or Bruce Willis were wanted for Gandalf or Boromir for example. I can not imagine it if this ended happening. What do you think? Would you change casting now, or do you like who was picked. Who would you replace and with who if you have someone in mind.

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NoelGallagher
Rohan


Feb 3 2014, 2:33pm

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everythings fine [In reply to] Can't Post

as it is.
The Cast is a main reason why the trilogy is so awesome.


Elskidor
Rohan


Feb 3 2014, 2:57pm

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but seeing some of those early choices are just funny to me. Bruce Willis as Boromir. I can't see it. Nor Sean Connery as Gandalf. Vin Deasal and Nicholas Cage were either offered or tried to get the role of Aragorn too. Some of these guys I just think are odd and funny picks.

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NoelGallagher
Rohan


Feb 3 2014, 3:12pm

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maybe [In reply to] Can't Post

even Ben Stiller as Pippin.


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Elskidor
Rohan


Feb 3 2014, 4:05pm

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Was this actually ever [In reply to] Can't Post

a possibility? I've never heard that he was ever offered the role or auditioned for it.

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NoelGallagher
Rohan


Feb 3 2014, 4:27pm

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a possibility? I've never heard that he was ever offered the role or auditioned for it.


Was joking ;-)
But he would have fitted i guess....

Billy Boyd, no offense , you're great ! :-)


malickfan
Gondor


Feb 3 2014, 4:49pm

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The cast was pretty much perfect [In reply to] Can't Post

Great chemistry, lots of energy and committed very believable performances, though I have issues with the script there aren't many people I'd consider recasting, purely because the cast seemed to suit the type of film Jackson was making.

(maybe Charles Dance as Saruman, and Guy Pearce as Legolas)

I never really warmed to Elijah Wood as Frodo, even before reading the book I found Frodo a bit young and whiny in the films, almost too innocent, though Wood was rather impressive (It's hard to believe he was 18 when cast) I just didn't enjoy his performance. I was never convinced by Craig Parker as Haldir, a rather wooden performance and he looked more like a Bus Driver in a wig than a Elven Warrior.

As for rumours, the weirdest yet most brilliant I've read was Tom Baker (aka The Fourth Doctor) being linked with Tom Bombadil in the very earliest days of pre production, that would have been interesting!

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Magpie
Immortal


Feb 3 2014, 5:33pm

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I don't think that Bruce Willis was a credible rumor [In reply to] Can't Post

He was part of a list of actors under consideration but that list was later debunked.

However, one actor was attached to the cast for Theoden and left the production before Bernard Hill was brought in.

The road not taken - Who was cast as Theoden *before* Bernard Hill


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Kelly of Water's Edge
Lorien

Feb 3 2014, 5:59pm

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I thought everyone did a great job. [In reply to] Can't Post

The only thing I could possibly say is that I still find it hard to believe that they couldn't find any actors of short stature (I'm talking 4 1/2 feet and under) to play the Hobbits.

Billy Kwans and Tyrion Lannisters don't come along that often, and if I were a good actor who may have dreamed of these roles my whole life and had alot fewer opportunities for juicy roles than average sized folks, I would have been pretty upset that I wasn't under consideration for great roles for which I could reasonably have finally thought short folks would be frontrunners.

To be fair, I don't know if the casting directors did honestly look and couldn't find enough actors who really would have been good fits, or if the team always knew they would be casting average sized people as the Hobbits.


Otaku-sempai
Half-elven


Feb 3 2014, 6:56pm

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Stuart Townsend as Aragorn [In reply to] Can't Post

Here's one that became reality, right into the early days of production when he was replaced with Viggo. How anyone thought that this young pretty-boy would be suitable for Strider, I will never understand.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


demnation
Rohan

Feb 3 2014, 8:23pm

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The cast is the only perfect thing about these films, I think. [In reply to] Can't Post

And I will always appreciate the cast for their dedication to the story. There is a scene in FOTR where Gandalf and Elrond are debating Sauron and Saruman's motivations. The actors are not hammy or OTT. They are debating it like it was an actual real life issue. And I'm constantly impressed with Elijah Wood, considering he was only 19.
All the casting worked out for the best, I think.


Meneldor
Grey Havens


Feb 3 2014, 11:28pm

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In the commentary for RotK [In reply to] Can't Post

PJ admits that he wanted Arnold Schwarzenegger as Prince Imrahil of Dol Amroth.

I think he was making a joke... ?


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glor
Rohan

Feb 4 2014, 2:35am

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Faramir? [In reply to] Can't Post

Wasn't there a rumour, even a comment on one the LOTR extras that the team had a Faramir almost cast but, they decided when they did a screen test with a Seab Bean height alike, that he would have been to tall and messed up the perspective shots?

perhaps I imagined it..


CuriousG
Valinor


Feb 6 2014, 7:25pm

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The cast mostly worked [In reply to] Can't Post

The more I re-watch the movies, the more some people grow on me. For example, I didn't like Liv Tyler as Arwen when watching the theatrical versions, but I really like her now. There is something about seeing an actor in a movie and having to forget their past movie roles if they conflict with the present one, and I still had her as a bratty, shallow girl in my mind. ("Armageddon")

Likewise, seeing the evil Agent from the Matrix cast as wise, good, kindly Elrond was a shock in the theater. It's taken repeated viewings to get used to him, and I think he did a pretty good job.

What's remarkable to me is that I like Cate Blanchett *a lot* as an actor and enjoy just about everything she's done, and I appreciate the broad range of people she's played (including a psychic in the rural US south--not exactly Queen Elizabeth!), but I can never warm up to her as Galadriel. Every time I see her in the movies, I wish someone else was in her place. And it seems bad acting to me on her part, like she's just going through the motions and it's just another gig. Yes, I know that Galadriel is a much-revered character and hard to cast, but she doesn't do it for me no matter how hard I try. (I bet Virginia Hey, who played Zhaan in Farscape, could nail that role.)

Standouts for me are Viggo as Aragorn and Sean Bean as Boromir. They made the movie characters richer in my mind than the book characters. I was surprised by that.

Bruce Willis? I guess he could play an Orc. With no speaking, just action. Schwarzenegger could play the cave troll. See, there's room for everyone.


BlackFox
Valinor


Feb 6 2014, 8:16pm

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Bruce Willis? I guess he could play an Orc. With no speaking, just action. Schwarzenegger could play the cave troll. See, there's room for everyone.

You, sir, just made my day. Laugh

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Nerven
Rivendell

Feb 6 2014, 9:51pm

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Virginia Hey is 61, so not that right for Galadriel, Im really a fan of Cate and I think shes really pretty, but I think Galadriel should be more beautiful, like sophie marceau in Bravehart or Jennifer Lawrence. With Cate acting regarding Galadriel, Im OK.


CuriousG
Valinor


Feb 6 2014, 11:08pm

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Vin Diesel vs. The Nazgul on Weathertop [In reply to] Can't Post

If he reprised his Riddick role in Pitch Black, he could have credibly whipped them all, and showing the fight via his night vision would have been a cool twist.

Otherwise, I think he'd fit the Strider role about as well as the Frodo role. Not too well. Only Benedict Cumberbatch can be cast in every role, it seems. :)


elf-lady
Rivendell

Feb 7 2014, 5:30pm

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Original trailer for FOTR [In reply to] Can't Post

When I first saw the trailer (not having known there was going to be a film about LOTR at that time) and Sean Bean crested the hill I thought "Oh he'll be great as Aragorn!" and then realized he wasn't. Nothing against Viggo but I didn't know him then. Blush


Loresilme
Valinor


Feb 27 2014, 7:41pm

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Here's one that became reality, right into the early days of production when he was replaced with Viggo. How anyone thought that this young pretty-boy would be suitable for Strider, I will never understand.




I wonder about that too. To me it seems that virtually every other casting choice they made was so excellent, that this one was a puzzler. Perhaps he might have made a good Elf though.

 
 

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