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Smaug and Azog conversation as a prologue for TABA

Mr. Arkenstone (isaac)
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Feb 7, 2:07pm


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Thinking about this I think Boyens said that Smaug was searching for the Arkenstone too. Perhaps we will see Azog or another Sauronīs minion presenting his greetings from Sauron,perhaps promising him more rewards. Smaug secretly coveting the ring?

So Azog departs and Smaug is warned that he must find the arkenstone among that enormous mountain of gold, a hard task even for him.

Wen he has his encounter with Bilbo,he finds it but between all the mayhem he losts it and Bilbo takes it. Sooner than that, in DOS Sauron says to Azog that he must forget about Thorin because death will come upon all anyway.

This will show up a veryTolkienesque caracteristic of de baddies, it would have been wiser for Sauron letting Azog pursue Thorin and co,perhaps he would have killed all of them. And Smaug with time would have found the jewel(he wasnīt sleeping he was sumerged in thegold looking for itXD)

So, it would have been wiser to Smaug remaining in the mountain,but he goes to Laketown in a rage and we all know what happens. Both Sauron and Smaug had a plan to follow,but both let themselves go trusting in his own power and committed fatal mistakes for themselves. Because the time Azog and Bolg spent in Dol Guldur together allowed the party reach Thranduils halls, because maybe they would have been killed in Mirkwood by the orcs. Anyway, this delay allowed our dwarves and Hobbit reach the mountain and the Arkentsone

Perhaps in that meeting Azog tells Smaug to not leaving the mountain until Sauron itself arrived with his armies, because there was a partyof dwarves pretending to steal the jewell. Thats why Smaugs has all this info about Thorin,and it would make for a good secret meeting like the meeting in Bree at thebegining of DOS.

It could go like Azog saying: Do not leave the mountain, Sauron asks for this(and he could even remember Smaug the prophecy about the ravens)

And right after that the attack upon Laketown starts, so the : What have we done? of Bilbo will have a new meaning

The flagon with the dragon has the brew that is true!

(This post was edited by isaac on Feb 7, 2:11pm)

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Smaug and Azog conversation as a prologue for TABA Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Send a private message to Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Feb 7, 2:07pm
    Maybe a Ringwraith should act as Sauron's messenger Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Feb 7, 2:55pm
        Good idea. Maybe not the prologue. xxxyyy Send a private message to xxxyyy Feb 7, 3:50pm
            Actually, I'm not sure that TaBA needs a prologue Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Feb 7, 4:01pm
            Why does Sauron need to be in the prologue? Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Feb 8, 8:53pm
        That's a good idea burgahobbit Send a private message to burgahobbit Feb 7, 4:59pm
            The Wraiths need disguises to interact with Mortals Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Feb 7, 6:36pm
                ringwraithes book Gandalf Send a private message to book Gandalf Feb 7, 6:57pm
                    I just assume... Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Feb 7, 7:10pm
    no book Gandalf Send a private message to book Gandalf Feb 7, 4:20pm
    I don't like it Elskidor Send a private message to Elskidor Feb 7, 5:08pm
    I was just thinking of this the other day Annatar598 Send a private message to Annatar598 Feb 7, 5:59pm
    Sorry, but no. Would not work at all. FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Send a private message to FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Feb 7, 7:17pm
    No. // sauget.diblosio Send a private message to sauget.diblosio Feb 8, 12:58pm

 
 
 

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