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suddenly last night

Rickster
Rohan

Feb 5 2014, 7:35pm

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Suddenly last night something popped up.
I remember a drinking game between the red haired dwarf of Lord of the Rings and the Elf in a bar
And after an amazing amount of alcohol, the dwarf lost.. and the elf said he only felt something .. a bit.. in the tip of his finger


This elf is of course Legolas.. so...


How much wine must the Elfs have been drinking in the wine-hall in D.O.S. in order to get them to sleep so the Dwarfs and the hobbit could escape


It.. just popped into the mind


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Otaku-sempai
Half-elven


Feb 5 2014, 7:42pm

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Dorwinion Wine [In reply to] Can't Post

We have generally assumed that the Wood-elves' Dorwinion wine is much stronger than the ale in the scene from LotR. It is probably equivalent to a fortified wine.

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book Gandalf
Rohan


Feb 5 2014, 7:43pm

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easy [In reply to] Can't Post

elves drink their own brews.

This is a serious journey, not a hobbit walking-party.


Elondria
The Shire


Feb 5 2014, 7:43pm

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I think in the book [In reply to] Can't Post

I remember something about the wine being extra potent. As in, it had been meant for shot glasses, but the guards, not knowing this, chugged the whole thing. Or something like that. And I remember this because I was wondering the same thing Smile

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Avandel
Valinor

Feb 5 2014, 7:46pm

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That's easy IMO [In reply to] Can't Post

No way to tell the actual alcohol content of the said alcohol. But it's said that Thranduil has excellent wine. And once the elves start celebrating in the cellar, who is to say Thranduil did not also have other excellent liquors around, with a real kick. Your're partying, and you look around, and you are in a cellar w. kegs and kegs and bottles and bottles of stuff, probably all of the finest quality e.g. high alcohol content.

Plus, ME doesn't strike me as a place that has labs where quality and consistency can be checked - LOL this is stuff that's stuck in my head from watching "Moonshiners" and another show on the distilleries of Scotland and Kentucky - who knew making liquor was such an art form?


Rickster
Rohan

Feb 5 2014, 8:20pm

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thanks to you all ! Great answers [In reply to] Can't Post

 
so it would be that if most of the other inhabitants of Middle earth drank this wine, they would collaps after one glas :D





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No way to tell the actual alcohol content of the said alcohol. But it's said that Thranduil has excellent wine. And once the elves start celebrating in the cellar, who is to say Thranduil did not also have other excellent liquors around, with a real kick. Your're partying, and you look around, and you are in a cellar w. kegs and kegs and bottles and bottles of stuff, probably all of the finest quality e.g. high alcohol content.

Plus, ME doesn't strike me as a place that has labs where quality and consistency can be checked - LOL this is stuff that's stuck in my head from watching "Moonshiners" and another show on the distilleries of Scotland and Kentucky - who knew making liquor was such an art form?



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Altaira
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Feb 6 2014, 4:38am

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Quality vs. quantity [In reply to] Can't Post

Ask and you shall receive, but not from me, from Tolkien himself - the answer comes straight from the text of The Hobbit:


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It must be potent wine to make a wood-elf drowsy; but this wine, it would seem, was the heady vintage of the great gardens of Dorwinion, not meant for his soldiers or his servants, but for the king's feasts only, and for smaller bowls, not for the butler's great flagons.



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phij2
Rivendell

Feb 6 2014, 9:02am

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Interesting... [In reply to] Can't Post

i wonder if the part of the reason for showing this drunkenness is to further highlight the differences between the wood-elves, who are said to be less serious, and the sea elves such as Elrond. I find it very difficult to imagine Elrond drinking too much wine and falling asleep!


painjoiker
Grey Havens


Feb 6 2014, 11:58am

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You should have seen him in his younger days! [In reply to] Can't Post

Partying with beautiful elf-women all night long Wink Cool

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Avandel
Valinor

Feb 6 2014, 6:03pm

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that is very cool, thank you for posting [In reply to] Can't Post

this wasn't "my" thread but that's a great bit of info - feeds into all the old folklore of the potency of "fairy wine" and how one should never drink or eat in the land of the fairies or "otherworlds" or you risk falling asleep forever, losing track of time, and you may never return to human lands. Or if you return 100 years or more has passed.

 
 

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