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Hobbit speculation on MSN

Kelly of Water's Edge
Lorien

Mar 4 2007, 2:58am

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Just saw a bit about The Hobbit on MSN. If you scroll to the entertainment section, they have an article called 10 best Hollywood movie rumors. If you click on the More Movie Rumors to Ponder continuation, the last of the 10 rumors addresed is the Sam Raimi to direct The Hobbit speculation. The article suggests that Raimi would probably decline if he didn't personally get Peter Jackson's blessing because he would be extremely reluctant to stir up bad feelings between them.

Nothing more to it than that, but I thought it was an interesting little tidbit. I wonder how many other directors would or will decline considering the public knowledge that Jackson wants first shot.


White Gull
Lorien


Mar 4 2007, 3:09am

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Don't you wish... [In reply to] Can't Post

every director would?

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Patty
Immortal


Mar 4 2007, 3:25am

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Frankly, yes. I wish they all would. [In reply to] Can't Post

But I suppose that's unfair to the folks that want to see other hands take this on.

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hatster
Rohan


Mar 4 2007, 3:58am

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no more unfair to hope that than it would be [In reply to] Can't Post

for those folks to hope that NewLine doesn't straighten it out...which many have said as much

Soooo I'm with you..here's wishing all other directors would do the same

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Daughter of Nienna
Grey Havens


Mar 4 2007, 10:14am

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like stepping in a mine field [In reply to] Can't Post

that not only would they be concerned with getting blessings, but also...Newline has domonstrated how untrustworthy they are to enter into contract with. I suspect Newline will be hard pressed to get any director after the controversy. It would be like stepping in a mine field.

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grammaboodawg
Immortal


Mar 4 2007, 1:55pm

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*twitch* I SO agree with all of you... [In reply to] Can't Post

it would be wonderful if the directors were at least respectful of each others' works/territory... and I do consider The Hobbit and it's sequel to be Peter Jackson's territory. I still hold out hope that New Line will come around. I honestly can't believe everyone who has a voice in the decision are in total agreement with Shaye. But it's hopeful and encouraging to know that MGM isn't sitting by placidly waiting to see what happens.

I know there are others who would prefer to see someone else handle these new films... time will tell. But for me, it'd be like Sam believing Frodo should be able to stay and enjoy the Shire after everything he'd been through to achieve the Quest. After what not only Peter went through, but everyone who sacrificed and created so much to give us The Lord of the Rings, it just wouldn't seem right.

Thanks for finding this article, Kelly. Rami's hesitation just increased my respect for him.


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fmaximus
Rivendell

Mar 4 2007, 4:20pm

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James Cameron is one example... [In reply to] Can't Post

... that directors stick together.
James Cameron (a very respected director), said that audits are common practice in the film industry, and that New Line refuses to allow one only adds to the speculation that they have something to hide. New Line's refusal to have an audit done might also deter any future directors to take over the helm of the Hobbit, because the same thing could happen to them. So I wouldn't blame Raimi for having second thoughts.

On a side note... Peter Jackson wasn't the only one to sue New Line over the LOTR trilogy. Saul Zaentz, owner of Tolkien Ent. won a lawsuit in which New Line owed him about 20 million dollars.


deej
Tol Eressea


Mar 4 2007, 4:23pm

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There is a big article in the new 'Premiere' magazine about this. [In reply to] Can't Post

The article tries not to take sides, but it does seem to favor PJ and his ongoing struggle to get films made outside of the 'Hollywood Machine'.

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greendragon
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Mar 4 2007, 4:57pm

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that's where I blame NL the most.... [In reply to] Can't Post

Aside, of course, from the fact that I SO want PJ to direct The Hobbit! My main issue with NL is that, according to an article I read, it was in the contract PJ et al had that they had the right to request an audit should they so desire. This is, I believe, standard practice in the film industry. So even if NL believe they DON'T owe PJ money, that they should block the audit is VERY suspicious. The answer should just be, 'Fine, you have a right to an audit, and we believe it will show we don't owe you money, so let's go ahead.' Then the decision is made and the matter is swiftly and (relatively) painlessly resolved. Instead, NL won't agree to the audit and then, when PJ understandably says he wouldn't feel right making a film with a company with whom he still had this ongoing battle, and anyway NL threaten him that they won't LET him do it if he won't agree to drop the claim, Shaye starts calling PJ names and generally behaving like an egotistical old (censored - family board!).

That's as I understand it, anyway - and if I were a movie director I would be wary of ending up in a similar position with NL. And if my interpretation of events is correct, then I would think even those LotR fans who would like to see a different director have a go at The Hobbit must surely disapprove of the way NL have behaved.

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Daughter of Nienna
Grey Havens


Mar 4 2007, 7:13pm

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grammaboodawg
Immortal


Mar 5 2007, 3:09pm

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Nessa Inglorion
The Shire


Mar 7 2007, 4:20am

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link 2 online article, whole article is in the hard copy magazine [In reply to] Can't Post

http://www.premiere.com/features/3522/peter-jackson-vs-new-line.html


Nessa Inglorion
The Shire


Mar 7 2007, 4:27am

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