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Tauriel's weird combat knives

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Bree


Jan 15 2014, 3:38am

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I was looking through some of the Weta props for fun, and when I came across Tauriel's daggers, something just seems rather off. The blade is curved, but it seems to be curved "downwards," i.e. in the opposite direction compared to a saber or katana. Does anyone know what cultural these knives would emulate?




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demnation
Rohan

Jan 15 2014, 3:54am

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I'm not sure they are supposed to emulate anything [In reply to] Can't Post

Maybe it's just an Elvish thing?


legolin12
The Shire

Jan 15 2014, 3:55am

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Elves! [In reply to] Can't Post

These knives emulate the Woodland Realm 's design :)
They are unique, made especially for my favorite female Elf Tongue

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ec1988
The Shire

Jan 15 2014, 4:17am

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Probably the Indonesian Karambit [In reply to] Can't Post

The hooked blade can be quite effective for slashing.


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Bree


Jan 15 2014, 4:54am

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Yeah, I think you're right [In reply to] Can't Post

Googled the Karambit, and it does indeed share similar blade design.




Aitieuriskon
Lorien


Jan 15 2014, 5:14am

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The falx [In reply to] Can't Post

They could be inspired by the falx, a weapon utilized by the ancient Dacians of the Carpathian Mountains. These are of course much shorter than Dacian falces.

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Meneldor
Valinor


Jan 15 2014, 5:39am

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The Indian kukri also curves downward. [In reply to] Can't Post

Tauriel's daggers also somewhat resemble seax knives, which have straight blades with angled points, but the sharp edge is along the long straight side of the blade.


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ElendilTheShort
Gondor


Jan 15 2014, 6:03am

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they are similar to a seax excluding the downward curve you note. [In reply to] Can't Post

they tried too hard with these ones as they have done with a lot of weapons in these movies as opposed to the generally excellent if somewhat appropriately movieified weapons of the LOTR trilogy.

d'oh i just fully read the post directly above.


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Rowan Greene
Lorien


Jan 15 2014, 11:03am

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I prefer these (Legolas).... [In reply to] Can't Post

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elf-lady
Rivendell

Jan 15 2014, 1:33pm

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Blade color looks brown? [In reply to] Can't Post

Is that just a trick of the background coloring and flash during photography or are the blades actually brown? They look like they're enameled or something.


elf-lady
Rivendell

Jan 15 2014, 1:35pm

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So do I [In reply to] Can't Post

I bought the replicas when they first came out along with the separate sheaths. They are beautiful and quite heavy. My husband wanted to swing them around! Laugh


Ruxendil_Thoorg
Tol Eressea


Jan 15 2014, 4:33pm

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Others have posted correctly about the kerambit, the kukhri, and other blades with similar curve. I would add that I think of it as resembling the curve of a carnivorous animal's claws. Same curve is found on Marvel Comics' Wolverine's adamantium claws, I think for the same reason. Like the kerambit and Wolverine's claws, Tauriel's blades would be great for tearing, gouging, and hooking. I think this nicely reflects her rustic Silvan Elf nature, instinctive and bloodthirsty like a kller beast when fighting.

In contrast, Legolas' katana-like (or more accurately, tanto-like) curved knives would appropriately reflect his noble-born, Sindarin background: disciplined, cool-headed and cold-blooded in executing intricate combat techniques and feats under pressure, like a trained Samurai would.

To be fair, I should mention that Tauriel seems just as capable of staying cool in the heat of battle. Still, she is portrayed as hot-headed and may I say Wolverine-esque, such as during the Narzug scene.

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Retro315
Rivendell

Jan 15 2014, 5:07pm

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An upward curve is better for slashing, but isn't as good for skinning wild animals. These appear to be hunting knives, and would also be quite excellent for cutting spider-webs down.


Meneldor
Valinor


Jan 17 2014, 11:36pm

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I paid attention to Tauriel's knife work, and I noticed she does a lot with an underhand or reverse grip: the blade on the pinky finger side of her hand instead of the thumb/forefinger side. That downward curve to her blades makes slashes more effective when used with an underhand grip.


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