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Legolas and Glorfindel


Jan 12, 6:53pm

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Legolas and Glorfindel [In reply to] Can't Post

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...Legolas would be trounced by Glorfindel. Absolutely trounced. After all, Glorfindel (and I'm going with the "Gondolin Glorfindel who came back as Third Age Glorfindel who holds a position of honor in Elrond's house) beat a Balrog!

"on his brow set wisdom, and in his hand was strength."
That's the description of Glorfindel at the Council of Elrond in FoTR. He's Noldorin (high elven) and is the same guy who drives back the Nazgul in a blaze of light as Frodo crosses the river on Glorfindel's horse Asfaloth. When the Hobbits first see him, it seems as if white light is shining through him, as through a thin veil. Tolkien considered writing it into his mythos that this Glorfindel was the reincarnation of the earlier one who died during the Fallagongallin (which is how most of Tolkien's contemporaries heard the title of the tale....he mumbled). Tolkien left this earth before nailing that down in his mythos.

"In Rivendell there live still some of his chief foes: the Elven-wise, lords of the Eldar from beyond the furthest seas. They do not fear the Ringwraiths, for those who have dwelt in the Blessed Realm live at once in both worlds, and against both the Seen and the Unseen they have great power."

I did an entire fanfic on why Glorfindel got written out of two films (he's the one the Hobbits meet on the road to Rivendell, and is replaced, in the animated Bakshi film by Legolas in ballet wear... and in PJ's films by Arwen (grrrrrrrrrrrrr, snarl, argh). In both films, it makes more sense to have a character we will see more of meet the Hobbits, rather than one who will show up and simply vanish out of the tale after a chapter or so (which is actually more like real life: you meet people briefly on the road, and then they are gone).


And this is where the real contest between Glorfindel and Legolas actually takes place in the books.

Why not simply send Glorfindel on the mission with the Fellowship???????

Hey, he just blasted a whole shipload of Nazgul...... experienced, powerful, healing capabilities, wisdom, strength... what's not to love?

Because neither strength nor wisdom will carry you very far upon this quest.

What is needed is what Hobbits have, what Legolas has: youth, flexibility, especially of mind. glorfindel may be a mighty oak, but Legolas will bend like a young tree in the wind. He will be able to make an alliance with one Dwarf, then all of them. He will sing under the stars while others are sharpening their weapons and thinking dread grim thoughts. He will stare in wonder at eyes in the trees. He will keep up the spirits of the three hunters as they race across the Plains of Rohan. He will run on top of the snow and find the sun when the Mighty are bogged down in the drifts.

The elvish spirit isn't just about how many balrogs you can kill, but whether you can continue to see the light of the stars on the darkest night.

Both characters have their strengths. Glorfindel is a mighty Elf Lord who has lived in both realms: the Blessed Realm and Middle-earth. Legolas, before the events of LOTR, had not traveled much beyond the eaves of Mirkwood. If you are looking for military might, then Glorf is your guy... if, however, you want to dance under the stars, or paddle the swift forest river, or learn how to speak to horses, or run on snow... then look up Legolas.

"Judge me by my size, would you?" Max the Hobbit Husky.

Subject User Time
Legolas vs Glorfindel Cetautomatix Send a private message to Cetautomatix Jan 6, 5:38pm
    If they fought for some reason... elf-lady Send a private message to elf-lady Jan 6, 5:43pm
        This... Rowan Greene Send a private message to Rowan Greene Jan 6, 5:45pm
            not a single chance for Leggy CurseOfFeanor Send a private message to CurseOfFeanor Jan 6, 6:00pm
        Legolas and Glorfindel swordwhale Send a private message to swordwhale Jan 12, 6:53pm
            Perfect response is perfect. Werde Spinner Send a private message to Werde Spinner Feb 4, 5:31pm
            i love this post MirielCelebel Send a private message to MirielCelebel Mar 15, 11:32pm
    film vs book book Gandalf Send a private message to book Gandalf Jan 6, 5:43pm
        you nailed it.... swordwhale Send a private message to swordwhale Mar 16, 8:38pm
    Legolas would be destroyed Elskidor Send a private message to Elskidor Jan 6, 5:50pm
        Not Even Sure Girdle of Melian Send a private message to Girdle of Melian Jan 6, 6:08pm
    it would not be one sided ElendilTheShort Send a private message to ElendilTheShort Jan 6, 7:27pm
    The Elf Lord to beat the Woodland Elf. Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Jan 7, 3:27am
    I really liked that posted reply ltnjmy Send a private message to ltnjmy Mar 16, 7:32pm
    Sorry Legolas DaughterofLaketown Send a private message to DaughterofLaketown Mar 23, 4:21am


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