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Going by evidence in the book,

Kristin Thompson
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Jan 8, 4:20pm


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Gandalf does not know "certainly" that there are any goblins in Moria, let alone an infestation of them. He says:

If there are Orcs there, it may prove ill for u, that is true. But most of the Orcs of the Misty Mountains were scattered or destroyed in the Battle of Five Armies. The Eagles report that Orcs are gathering again from afar; but there is a hope that Moria is still free.

There is even a chance that Dwarves are there, and that in some deep hall of his fathers, Balin son of Fundin maybe be found.


He also did not suspect that there was a Balrog in Moria. When the Balrog shows up, Gandalf's reaction is: "'A Balrog,' muttered Gandalf. 'Now I understand.'" That is, he understand what the powerful force he encountered in the struggle over the door in the Chamber of Mazarbul.

Later, when the Fellowship tells the tale of Gandalf's fall to Celeborn, Galadriel, and the Elves, Celeborn says, "We have long feared that under Caradhras a terror slept." Even he, who has lived near the entrance to Moria, doesn't know what that terror is. Clearly Gandalf didn't, either. But if Gandalf knew of the Elves' fear of a "terror" in Moria, he, too, would probably think that it is asleep far down in the mines.

It's only in the film that it is stated (by Saruman) that Gandalf knows that the Dwarves awakened the Balrog. So the issue of going through Moria is quite different in the book and the film--virtually the opposite of each other.

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why does gandalf agree to go through moria ? shaundobson Send a private message to shaundobson Jan 7, 10:45am
    He only knows that it is dark and dangerous, not that it is inhabited squire Send a private message to squire Jan 7, 12:09pm
    For one thing, it was his own suggestion. Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jan 7, 3:42pm
        Or maybe that should be Hamfast Gamgee Send a private message to Hamfast Gamgee Jan 7, 10:41pm
    to get to the other side // Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Jan 7, 9:23pm
        apologies... Maciliel Send a private message to Maciliel Jan 7, 9:23pm
        You, good sir, win the internent today. :D / Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Jan 7, 9:56pm
        wakka wakka wakka! // acheron Send a private message to acheron Jan 9, 12:40pm
        Baaa-dum-bum :D // grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Jan 10, 12:00pm
    none shall pass book Gandalf Send a private message to book Gandalf Jan 7, 10:49pm
        Winter, winter everywhere Ethel Duath Send a private message to Ethel Duath Jan 8, 3:19am
    I suspect this question is based on the film Kristin Thompson Send a private message to Kristin Thompson Jan 8, 3:17pm
        Book or film, I think that the answer remains the same Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jan 8, 3:59pm
            Going by evidence in the book, Kristin Thompson Send a private message to Kristin Thompson Jan 8, 4:20pm
                Two versions make this happen, but ... Hun200kmh Send a private message to Hun200kmh Jan 10, 5:14pm
                    You're quite welcome, Hun200kmh! Kristin Thompson Send a private message to Kristin Thompson Jan 10, 7:44pm
    In the film version grammaboodawg Send a private message to grammaboodawg Jan 9, 10:50am
    Well, they nearly *did* get through without being noticed. Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Jan 10, 11:56pm
        Ha! Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Jan 12, 3:19pm
            In a present-day version... Na Vedui Send a private message to Na Vedui Jan 12, 6:26pm
                Lol- this made me giggle Na Vedui!// elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 Jan 12, 6:35pm

 
 
 

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