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Peter Jackson and The Desolation of Progress

Tinuvielinthemiddle
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Jan 5, 4:10am


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First of all, I want to thank you for welcoming me to this wonderful forum. I've always felt very alone when it comes to taste. I am a Latina living in new york. The times are really high but when you are tortuous I like the support of the " nerds " . So for me it's a thrill to find a space to share my love of Tolkien and his work with people who feel the same affection for his countless stories.
For director Peter Jackson his work on the trilogy The Lord of the Rings was a revolution in his career, from his flirtation with the B series and participation in productions such as Bad Taste , Braindead with which he gained a small but loyal fan quarry , to become one of the most important filmmakers and producers of the past decade that have allowed him to plan and carry out their own whims: directing a remake of King Kong full of special effects, take over the big screen adaptation of the novel the Lovely Bones by Alice Sebold or fund projects such as District 9, Neill Blomkamp or the Adventures of Tintin the Secret of the Steven Spielberg Unicorn. All this has been possible thanks to the overwhelming success of a series of films that have marked time.
Well, on to the critique of the film. This tape has definitely lost my faith in cinema. The LOTR for me was always a glimmer of hope, a constant pleasure. But this one for me was like reaching into the bag of Starbucks coffee beans. We are victims of an industry devoted to rob us every day with their productions and remakes. The industry scams us friends, living out of our pockets. Why continue to feed the fever commercial cinema?
There were times where filmmaking was sweat, tears, sacrifice? Today all our food becomes art through a GREEN SCREEN. You are to blame for this dying art every day. You are the culprits that prefer to watch movies on netflix and not in imax.
You think the world is perfect and you might wake up next to Galadriel after a night out? No, in the real world you wake up next to GOLLUM. GALADRIEL is a macho image of what man seeks in woman: blond hair , frigidity , white dress, light weight. As a latina in new york I find this offensive.
I will go back to Belmondo, with dolce vitta with an Eiffel tower in black and white, 35 mm. No, I do not wet the 3d, I did not wet green screens let alone the devastation they have done with Tolkien. This has gone too far. They have ruined the skin sweating humanity on screen and the hard labor. Tolkien saw through machinery. Peter Jackson revels it. It is a phallucy. No more can be said.
Forgive me for my harshness, but I had to get it out of my chest.
Namar´Ú,
Tin˙viel In the middle

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Peter Jackson and The Desolation of Progress Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 4:10am
    You obviously haven't watched the "making of" stuff for LOTR and The Hobbit AUJ... Tim Send a private message to Tim Jan 5, 4:29am
        Peter green screen Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 4:34am
        Ditto MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Jan 5, 4:54am
            THANKS Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 4:59am
                what about waking up next to Thranduil?? MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Jan 5, 5:03am
                    :) Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 5:07am
                        ahaha!! MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Jan 5, 5:11am
                            :) Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 5:13am
                                no problem just PM me and i will MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Jan 5, 5:16am
                                    <3 Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 5:20am
                    Waking up next to Thranduil... Rowan Greene Send a private message to Rowan Greene Jan 6, 12:50am
                        My cousin would love to wake up to Thranduil warhorse78 Send a private message to warhorse78 Jan 6, 2:33am
                        nice horse on your avatar btw! MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Jan 6, 3:32am
                            Thanks! Rowan Greene Send a private message to Rowan Greene Jan 6, 10:28am
    Could you clarify something please? DwellerInDale Send a private message to DwellerInDale Jan 5, 5:29am
        LOL MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Jan 5, 5:30am
        problem Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 5:34am
    Things change... tsmith675 Send a private message to tsmith675 Jan 5, 5:33am
        brown woman Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 5:39am
        Technology does not make work easier. warhorse78 Send a private message to warhorse78 Jan 6, 3:37am
            Exactly. tsmith675 Send a private message to tsmith675 Jan 6, 5:35am
    I don't see how PJ's The Hobbit ruins the art-form of film hexxenpanda Send a private message to hexxenpanda Jan 5, 5:39am
        cinema Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 5:46am
            First of all, welcome Elciryamo Send a private message to Elciryamo Jan 5, 6:02am
                colombia Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 6:08am
            Well, just about anything is considered an art Elskidor Send a private message to Elskidor Jan 5, 6:04am
                art Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 6:12am
            Not all films have to be artistic statements hexxenpanda Send a private message to hexxenpanda Jan 5, 6:40am
                That is a good comparison Elskidor Send a private message to Elskidor Jan 5, 6:45am
                    issue Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 6:57am
                gollum Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 6:55am
                    That makes perfect sense demnation Send a private message to demnation Jan 5, 7:17am
                        THANKS Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 7:29am
                            VIVA TOLKIEN! demnation Send a private message to demnation Jan 5, 7:55am
                                galadriel Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:46pm
                                LOTR Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:47pm
    Welcome! demnation Send a private message to demnation Jan 5, 6:56am
        opinion Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 6:59am
        Honestly I don't care about Tolkien when it comes to these movies. GiantMushroomBear Send a private message to GiantMushroomBear Jan 5, 2:30pm
            If Jackson is going to call these movies The Hobbit... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jan 5, 4:48pm
                Every time I see this idea stated. DavidDevant Send a private message to DavidDevant Jan 5, 5:01pm
                    I said nothing about Jackson "hating" Tolkien... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jan 5, 5:04pm
                        Neither did I. DavidDevant Send a private message to DavidDevant Jan 5, 5:11pm
                            You didn't? Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jan 5, 5:19pm
                                As an an analogy for DavidDevant Send a private message to DavidDevant Jan 5, 5:28pm
                                    Likewise... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jan 5, 5:37pm
                                        Not at all. DavidDevant Send a private message to DavidDevant Jan 5, 5:51pm
                                            Yep, I have my expectations... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jan 5, 6:00pm
                                                Well you seem to have now moved DavidDevant Send a private message to DavidDevant Jan 5, 6:08pm
                                                    Didn't say anything in my last post that I haven't been saying this entire conversation... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jan 5, 6:37pm
                                                        Whenever a discussion entmaiden Send a private message to entmaiden Jan 5, 6:53pm
                                                        Ya I don't get it.... aruman Send a private message to aruman Jan 7, 2:39am
                                                            You don't need to wonder Elciryamo Send a private message to Elciryamo Jan 7, 3:59am
                                                    pop Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:39pm
                                            freedom Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:37pm
                                        I never heard of Tolkien, The Hobbit or LOTR warhorse78 Send a private message to warhorse78 Jan 5, 10:03pm
                                        art 2 Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:36pm
                                    art Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:33pm
                                opinion Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:31pm
                            art Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:29pm
                        Fully Agree with you sentiments// malickfan Send a private message to malickfan Jan 5, 5:13pm
                        Movie-makers have been doing "whatever" they want... Tim Send a private message to Tim Jan 5, 5:28pm
                            Because this is a story I care about... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jan 5, 5:41pm
                        cinema Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:25pm
                    conflicts Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:24pm
                this subject thing needs to go warhorse78 Send a private message to warhorse78 Jan 5, 9:51pm
                nothing matters to jackson Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:23pm
                    Now that's hardly fair..... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Jan 5, 11:31pm
            Perhaps you meant to reply to someone else? demnation Send a private message to demnation Jan 5, 11:07pm
        directors Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:21pm
    Don't really get the Galadriel comment - Hanzkaz Jan 5, 12:37pm
        Tauriel with red hair arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Jan 5, 2:56pm
        When it comes to race ... Eledhwen Send a private message to Eledhwen Jan 5, 5:24pm
            Same here. Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Jan 5, 7:49pm
                HEY Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:44pm
                it's lonely at the top Avandel Send a private message to Avandel Jan 6, 5:17pm
            Yes, I believe it may be Kendalf Send a private message to Kendalf Jan 5, 11:51pm
    Sorry you didn't gain pleasure from the Hobbit films Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Jan 5, 1:43pm
        completely agree Avandel Send a private message to Avandel Jan 5, 5:18pm
            thanks Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:42pm
        movies Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:41pm
    Hello and welcome.... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Jan 5, 1:53pm
        forum Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:42pm
    I have my issues with the films as well... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Jan 5, 4:31pm
        :) Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:43pm
        Agreed... Rowan Greene Send a private message to Rowan Greene Jan 6, 1:05am
    I will initiate my opinion with a 'Welcome to TORN!' Tinuvielinthemiddle' StoneHex104 Send a private message to StoneHex104 Jan 5, 8:31pm
        :) Tinuvielinthemiddle Send a private message to Tinuvielinthemiddle Jan 5, 11:43pm
    I must respectfully disagree sphdle1 Send a private message to sphdle1 Jan 6, 3:07am
        Couldn't agree with ya more, sphdle1. // Tim Send a private message to Tim Jan 6, 3:22am
        I agree also sphdle! Except that I am a Tolkien book lover and I still love these movies. Noria Send a private message to Noria Jan 6, 3:00pm
            Bomby stays away from these... Bombadil Send a private message to Bombadil Jan 6, 4:49pm
                Awesome post Bomby! ;) // sphdle1 Send a private message to sphdle1 Jan 7, 3:43am

 
 
 

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