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book Gandalf
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Dec 31 2013, 9:48pm
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do you think certain awards are holding out untill the trilogy is out to give nominations? a bit like when return of the king swept the board felt like they were waiting untill then? (anyhing from actors to cgi, to hair to editing)
i cant believe the 'industry' wont want to give something to peter jackson not only for making so much money for warners but for the actual achievement of topping box office lists again. we know its not all about the best film and its all corrupt anyway.
i cant help thinking if pj doesnt get some more recognition for repeating his achievements and taking movie making forward (not forgetting the cash) then pj might not be interested in making quite so many blockbusters in the future.
This is a serious journey, not a hobbit walking-party.
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Cirashala
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Dec 31 2013, 9:53pm
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gets an award for this trilogy, it should be Martin Freeman.
He doesn't play Bilbo-he IS Bilbo! What a fantastic performance!
I don't usually care about awards for a film, but if he doesn't get one for this I will be cranky, just because it's the best acting of a character I have seen in a LONG time in any movie. Sir Ian comes in a very close second, but Martin's execution of Bilbo is unbelievable!
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DavidDevant
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Dec 31 2013, 9:59pm
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I wouldn't envisage any major nominations for the two so far
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Not really that sort of standard I don't think.
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book Gandalf
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Dec 31 2013, 10:02pm
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Not really that sort of standard I don't think.
my point being AFTER THE TRILOGY IS RELEASED and i also made the point its not always about the quality for award nominations, but recognition.
This is a serious journey, not a hobbit walking-party.
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DavidDevant
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Dec 31 2013, 10:05pm
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Well I can't comment on the last film.
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But I was responding to your question of whether anyone was "holding out" by commenting that no - I just don't think they would be under consideration.
And I don't see that quality or recognition would be of the right standard, based on the existing two.
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Rowan Greene
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Dec 31 2013, 10:50pm
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Same here... Martin Freeman has earned a nomination ten times over...
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Eleniel
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Dec 31 2013, 11:13pm
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"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
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Ataahua
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Dec 31 2013, 11:30pm
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that PJ's movie choices are influenced by the recognition he received for previous movies.
I'll be surprised if the films don't get a special effects award or two somewhere along the line. I'd love for Martin to be at least nominated for something for his acting but I'm not holding out hope, as I think fantasy still isn't taken as seriously as it could be in the film industry.
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Dec 31 2013, 11:58pm
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Very true, but I don't expect it.
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I don't expect it for a number of reasons.
1. It's an ensemble picture and it's hard to get acting nominations for ensemble films. Martin and Richard are pretty much sharing the limelight so far, and in the end it's Richard who gets the death scene. It would be unfair, but if anyone were to be nominated it wouldn't surprise me if it was Richard, even though Martin is doing such stellar work.
2. It's a blockbuster and acting noms rarely are given for blockbuster/action films. Same with comedy. It's an unfortunate prejudice, but it exists. Harking back to my first point, Richard is getting the dark drama, Martin the lighter "comedy" role. (Not comedy as in "ha ha", but the leaven that lightens the mix).
3. The Hobbit isn't as serious as LOTR, and so it's being accorded less respect by the critics. And even LOTR got very few acting nominations (and no Oscar nominations for acting).
4. Been there, done that. ROTK won all the awards and so they're kind of done. I don't think the award voters think this trilogy is as good or as ground-breaking. It's "more of the same, only less good" in many peoples' eyes, and for fantasy to win the main awards (acting, writing, directing) it has to be really extraordinary and mind-blowing. LOTR was that in its time. The Hobbit isn't, in large part because of LOTR and the popular emphasis on fantasy and "geek" movies in the years since then.
I don't expect many industry awards, even if everyone loves TABA. But the cast may get some audience-based awards, like Peoples' Choice, etc.
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dormouse
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Jan 1 2014, 12:39am
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There are a lot of really good performances in these films, but he leads the field. Very special and deserves to be recognised
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frodolives
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Jan 1 2014, 1:30am
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do you think certain awards are holding out untill the trilogy is out to give nominations? a bit like when return of the king swept the board felt like they were waiting untill then? (anyhing from actors to cgi, to hair to editing)
i cant believe the 'industry' wont want to give something to peter jackson not only for making so much money for warners but for the actual achievement of topping box office lists again. we know its not all about the best film and its all corrupt anyway.
i cant help thinking if pj doesnt get some more recognition for repeating his achievements and taking movie making forward (not forgetting the cash) then pj might not be interested in making quite so many blockbusters in the future. The feeling toward these films is nothing like what LOTR received. I doubt you will see any of the films win any major awards, to be honest. Industry reaction has been silent thus far, whereas all three LOTR films won numerous awards, or were at least nominated.
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Avandel
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Jan 1 2014, 4:20pm
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*grins* well, RA just took the Anglophile channel award for British Artist of the Year
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British artist of the year 2014 = fan love. (You can watch countdown at:
http://www.youtube.com/...amp;feature=youtu.be)
These kinds of awards may not be "prestige" awards, but it's not that the movie industry isn't paying attention - so I'm happy for the actors - in this case RA - because figure those kinds of awards help open doors when casting discussions are going on.
AND seems to me the "prestige" awards have gotten so political in their own right, "popular" awards aren't going to hurt in bringing notice to a performance or a film. Also, and this has been discussed before, "prestige" awards are wonderful but what if only 100,000 people ever see that work, and only at "arthouse" movie theaters?
PS. Meaning no disrespect, but the idea that RA might get an award because he has a "death scene" made me laugh, because it reminded me of a story when so many professional ice skaters were "dying" on the ice as part of their routines the industry finally started putting its foot down. Don't pay attention to most awards and the shows generally bore me, but are we really at the point when a part has to be dark, gritty, and you have to die or have a hopeless future to receive an award?
PS2 I'd hand Martin Freeman and Richard Armitage awards in a nanosecond - Martin Freeman IS Bilbo and RA has done something remarkable with Thorin. And kudos to Ian McKellan as well for all of his energy as our beloved Gandalf.
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AriesT
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Jan 1 2014, 5:55pm
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I do not see this trilogy to win any Oscar or major award after the third movie is out.
Even if the third one will be the best of the trilogy with a lot of golden Bilbo moments, to push Martin's chances in recieving an acting nomination, and not-so-flawed editing and CG.
I suppose, the Oscars 2015 will see a battle between Interstellar and GOTG in the technical categories. If those movies will be as good as we currently hope.
And I do not see, like mentioned before in another topic, DoS (and the trilogy in general) recieving nominations in the big categories unfortunately.
I could as well be totally wrong.
To Peter Jackson:
Not many directors on this planet get the chance to adapt two of the most legendary novels of all time. Not many directors were THAT profitable with their blockbusters. He adapted the probably most complex and epic fantasy book ever written.
We all know what he did for us Tolkien fans. No matter if we like his adaptions or not, he was the one who dared making those movies, making the LOTR production an epic tale for the crew as well, regarding the 440 days of shooting. He captured New Zealand in an incredibly beautiful way, so that every fan on earth will always believe this is the true Middle-earth as Tolkien described it in his books.
No matter what PJ does in the future and no matter if The Hobbit trilogy will win one award, I will always salute him for bringing Middle-earth to the big screen.
That being said, he will direct Tintin 2 afterwards. So he won't stop making blockbusters yet. :)
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