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Is there an indication of how much later present day is from the prologue?

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Rohan

Dec 26 2013, 6:27pm

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Is there an indication of how much later present day is from the prologue? Can't Post

I still haven't watched the film yet but already have tickets for Saturday! I really would appreciate it if someone could let me know if there is a "..... months/years later" when the Bree flashback transitions to present (well, not present but past) day?


Lindele
Gondor


Dec 26 2013, 6:32pm

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I believe, it says one year later on the screen


m.summers343
Bree

Dec 26 2013, 6:48pm

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It says 12 months later.


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Dec 26 2013, 6:54pm

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It says 12 months later.



Which is interesting because Tolkien gave an exact date for the meeting: March 15, 2941 -- a mere 7 or 8 months earlier. I guess that Jackson pushed it back so that he could convene a meeting of the seven Dwarf Houses.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


Thranderz
Rohan


Dec 26 2013, 7:40pm

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they are a few months into the quest?

I simply walked into Mordor.


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Rohan

Dec 26 2013, 8:03pm

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...into the quest


Eleniel
Tol Eressea


Dec 26 2013, 8:06pm

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Didn't Bilbo leave Bag End on April 25th or thereabouts? The Tale of Years in Appendix B tells us Bilbo found the One Ring in July of 2941, and they were at Beorn's in high Summer, so they must have entered Mirkwood perhaps late August as Tolkien mentions an "autumn-like mist white upon the ground and the air was chill, but the sun soon rose red in the East and the mists vanished." They reach Laketown around September 22nd (Bilbo's 51st birthday!).
So at the opening of DoS, by the book it should have been sometime in August, therefore only 5 months after the chance meeting in Bree.


"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
Victoria Monfort


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Dec 27 2013, 9:49pm

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You are, of course, correct. Thank you for the clarifications.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


Otaku-sempai
Immortal


Dec 27 2013, 9:55pm

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they are a few months into the quest?



As Eleniel reminded me above, the Company should be only about 3 months into the quest at the opening of The Desolation of Smaug. According to Tolkien, Gandalf's encounter with Thorin in Bree would have been 4 months ago.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring

 
 

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