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Orcrist's former owner

Fredeghar Wayfarer

Dec 23 2013, 8:03am

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Orcrist's former owner [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't think it's ever been stated who Orcrist's former owner was. Ecthelion is a popular fan theory and does make sense but this was never officially established. As such, I don't think Tolkien was trying to make connections between the two characters. He knew Orcrist was from Gondolin and had been used by an Elf to kill lots of orcs/goblins but beyond this, there was no firm history for the sword in place when Tolkien was writing The Hobbit. The "lord of silver fountains" bit was probably just a coincidence.

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An interesting connection - would love more information Dame Ioreth Send a private message to Dame Ioreth Dec 23 2013, 3:53am
    As far as I know Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Dec 23 2013, 4:13am
        The poem is in The Hobbit Dame Ioreth Send a private message to Dame Ioreth Dec 23 2013, 4:19am
            I stand corrected.... Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Dec 23 2013, 4:33am
    Orcrist's former owner Fredeghar Wayfarer Send a private message to Fredeghar Wayfarer Dec 23 2013, 8:03am
    it may be coincidence, or something Tolkien liked PhantomS Send a private message to PhantomS Dec 24 2013, 12:21am
        A water link? Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Dec 24 2013, 5:35am
    Such a lovely connect Ioreth! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Dec 27 2013, 7:51pm


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