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Eruonen
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Dec 22 2013, 1:56am
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They say "Windlance" not windlass....I listened carefully
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as I just saw the movie again a few hours ago.
And Bard's son calls it a "black arrow".
I still feel an actual arrow will make an appearance.
(This post was edited by Eruonen on Dec 22 2013, 1:56am)
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SirDennisC
Half-elven
Dec 22 2013, 3:02am
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Sorta like when Ori said "Up his Jackson"
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The black arrow shown is more of a javelin, lance or bolt which is to be fired from that turret mounted ballista thing.
Anyway, maybe the lance makes a "wind" sound or spins as it flies because of the shape of its head?
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Scorchster
Rivendell
Dec 22 2013, 4:19am
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Watched it for the 3rd time, this time I listened for it, and there was definitely an 'n' sound when they say "Wind Lance".
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Fili
Lorien
Dec 22 2013, 4:24am
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What Would Make This All Really Awesome To Me...
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Is if Bard really believes that one black "javelin" is his only hope, and he fires...
And misses.
And then...he hopes beyond hope that Girion really did knock a scale loose, and fires a black arrow from his quiver into Smaug.
The emotion of that playing out on screen would just be too great, especially for Tolkien fans.
“So comes snow after fire, and even dragons have their endings.”
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Ham_Sammy
Tol Eressea
Dec 22 2013, 4:50am
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Would be amazing. Yes I think they should do it that way!
Thank you for your questions, now go sod off and do something useful - Martin Freeman Twitter chat 3/1/13
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Eleniel
Tol Eressea
Dec 22 2013, 7:53am
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Bard definitely says "windlass"...
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and I queried the Dwarves pronunciation with my teenage boys as I couldn't remember myself how they pronounced it, and they confirmed that they heard Thorin say "windlass" also.
There really is no such thing as a "wind lance" unless you're talking about FINAL FANTASY, LOL - Google it!
btw, the black arrow is just that...the windlass is the mechanical device that fires it!
Maybe Bard is strong enough to fire it from his longbow if the other mechanism jams/is destroyed...we'll see in 12 months time!
"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
¯ Victoria Monfort
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DwellerInDale
Rohan
Dec 22 2013, 1:21pm
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Saw the film in IMAX (finally) with very clear sound, and was listening for it. Both Thorin and Balin clearly say "wind lance". My guess is that they've made up this word because the correct term, "ballista", is just too archaic for the average person to understand. So they took the words "wind" and "lance" (as a verb to throw, or as a noun a javelin-like weapon) and combined it with "windlass", (the cranking mechanism of a crossbow or similar device) and came up with "wind lance".
Don't mess with my favorite female elf.
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arithmancer
Grey Havens
Dec 22 2013, 2:33pm
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...that the term was made up by the filmmakers to describe the Dwarf-made weapon used by the Men of Dale. I not only hear the "n", but also the vowel sound of the a in "lance" (not the different, unstressed vowel sound of the a in "windlass").
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bowencm
Rivendell
Dec 22 2013, 2:46pm
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He says up his jacksie...its rhyming slang for arse.
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Starling
Half-elven
Dec 22 2013, 6:18pm
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is to keep all windlasses and/or windlances away from all jacksys. 
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bowencm
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Dec 22 2013, 7:03pm
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Ain't that the truth!!
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