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Reviews and Reactions part 14
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Wordofmask
Lorien

Dec 10 2013, 4:34pm

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Phil Dy ‏@philbertdy28m
I continue to be a fan of HFR, even if it doesn't look like movies.
Phil Dy ‏@philbertdy29m

The Hobbit: The Desolation of Smaug ('13 Peter Jackson): Still fun, if a bit much.


Arannir
Valinor


Dec 10 2013, 4:42pm

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German review [In reply to] Can't Post

One of the if not the most popular movie review page in Germany.

4.5 / 5

http://www.filmstarts.de/...6918/kritik.html?neu


Auj got 3.5 / 5


“All good stories deserve embellishment."

Praise is subjective. And so is criticism.

"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at."


BornOutOfTheWest
Rivendell


Dec 10 2013, 4:57pm

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Mark Kermode "Word Count" [In reply to] Can't Post

Mark Kermode has not released his review for the film yet but he has released this rather funny feature about comparing the movie to the book. Warning - contains lots of Maths Wink

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P87Ahev4CDE


BartTheBowman
The Shire

Dec 10 2013, 5:07pm

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another very mean spirited review [In reply to] Can't Post

http://screencrave.com/...p;utm_medium=twitter


easterlingchief1
Rivendell


Dec 10 2013, 5:10pm

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Out of curiosity, what did Kermode have to say about AUJ? [In reply to] Can't Post

I used to follow his stuff pretty regularly, but I stopped about year and half ago. Plus, I know he heaped praise on the Rings trilogy.


sauget.diblosio
Tol Eressea


Dec 10 2013, 5:19pm

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I listen to his podcast. [In reply to] Can't Post

He's not a huge Tolkien fan, or of fantasy in general (he's more a horror guy, and science fiction), but he does admire LotR, and Peter Jackson. He was so-so on AUJ-- he thought it too long and bloated, but liked the good parts. I remember that he finds the PJ of King Kong and The Lovely Bones and AUJ a bit out of control and over-indulgent (which i completely agree with btw). If i were to guess at a score, i'd probably say in the 7-8 out of 10 range (which is what i'd probably give it, but for slightly different, more Tolkien related, reasons).

Love Kermode though.


(This post was edited by sauget.diblosio on Dec 10 2013, 5:26pm)


dernwyn
Forum Admin / Moderator


Dec 10 2013, 5:41pm

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*wipes tears from eyes* Have Chrome translate this into English - it's a riot to read! Laugh The best review yet, IMHO. Angelic A sampling of the gems:

"Smaug wasteland" does not reach 100 percent of the "Lord of the Rings" Masterpiece level , mainly because of the fact that the dynamics within the "Hobbit" tour group less exciting than the failure of the Fellowship of the Ring.

Nevertheless passes Martin Freeman ("Love Actually", "Sherlock") as Bilbo Baggins now a striking development to a courageous hobbit hero with corners and edges. He takes the reins in his hand and is suggesting as the cute exterior to a correct identification figure, at the same time gives Freeman the seemingly innocuous Hobbit an ever-present deviousness that makes him dangerous. Bilbo rubs repeatedly on the Dwarven Chief Thorin Oakenshield, Richard Armitage the ("Captain America - The First Avenger," "Robin Hood") are used grimly.

A piquant B-Note gets the mutual stalking between master thief Bilbo and Smaug by the joint fire breathers "Sherlock" actor Martin Freeman and prehistory of the Benedict Cumberbatch.



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"I desired dragons with a profound desire"






Danielos
Rohan

Dec 10 2013, 5:41pm

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Good reviews in Sweden! [In reply to] Can't Post

The movie has 4,1/ 5 average rating in Sweden after five registered reviews so far. Pretty good!
For comparison, AUJ got 3,2 as average. However, many more reviews will have to be added to the DOS score.


BartTheBowman
The Shire

Dec 10 2013, 5:51pm

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mixed by film.com [In reply to] Can't Post

http://www.film.com/...tion-of-smaug-review


Wordofmask
Lorien

Dec 10 2013, 5:56pm

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Up to 79 at RT [In reply to] Can't Post

but dunno which review added


Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Dec 10 2013, 5:57pm

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It'll be interesting to see what RT does with that one [In reply to] Can't Post

I'm guessing rotten. After reading it, I was surprised that he gave it six stars out of ten.
Edit: I was wrong. It was just added, and they called it fresh (even though it lowered the average rating from 7.4 to 7.3, even while raising the percentage to 79%).

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

The Hall of Fire

(This post was edited by Voronwë_the_Faithful on Dec 10 2013, 5:59pm)


Arannir
Valinor


Dec 10 2013, 5:58pm

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More from the US, Canada. Germany, Austria, Switzerland, Lebanon and Belgium [In reply to] Can't Post

DnD Surly Factory ‏@DaSurlyOne 2h
DESOLATION OF SMAUG REVIEW: If you disliked the 1st movie you’ll hate this one! Poorly paced, scattershot storytelling, and boring action.




And 8 reviews (6 positive, 1 mixed, 1 negative):



http://www.brainfreeze.be/2013/12/10/review-the-hobbit-the-desolation-of-smaug/



http://focus.levif.be/...le-review-11762.html


http://geekspeakreviews.blogspot.ca/...lation-of-smaug.html


http://www.youtube.com/...ature=youtu.be&a


http://www.naharnet.com/...lation-of-smaug-2013


http://www.welt.de/...-einen-Tierfilm.html


http://www.filmering.at/...-smaugs-einoede-2013


http://www.gamona.de/...article,2376837.html


Although AUJ had a similar score at this point, the trend is definitly better... last year we already had the rumour about the LA screening having went not quite good, HFR rants on Twitter and reviews on blogs being much more mixed.

I think there is reason to hope this will stay over 75%.


“All good stories deserve embellishment."

Praise is subjective. And so is criticism.

"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at."

(This post was edited by Arannir on Dec 10 2013, 6:00pm)


Arannir
Valinor


Dec 10 2013, 5:59pm

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People on RT told me that reviewer decides whether it is rotten or fresh. [In reply to] Can't Post

 


“All good stories deserve embellishment."

Praise is subjective. And so is criticism.

"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at."


Aragorn the Elfstone
Tol Eressea


Dec 10 2013, 5:59pm

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It went in as positive. [In reply to] Can't Post

It's the most recent one that RT posted.

"All men dream; but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty recesses of their minds awake to find that it was vanity; But the dreamers of day are dangerous men. That they may act their dreams with open eyes to make it possible."
- T.E. Lawrence


BartTheBowman
The Shire

Dec 10 2013, 6:01pm

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He was a hater of the first [In reply to] Can't Post

Liked this one enough but can't admit without loosing his face within the blogosphere...


Wordofmask
Lorien

Dec 10 2013, 6:01pm

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Whoa! [In reply to] Can't Post

Kind of breaking floodgate.


Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Dec 10 2013, 6:01pm

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Film.com // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

The Hall of Fire


Arannir
Valinor


Dec 10 2013, 6:03pm

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That means still 100% fresh from 6 top-critics. [In reply to] Can't Post

:)


“All good stories deserve embellishment."

Praise is subjective. And so is criticism.

"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at."


Arannir
Valinor


Dec 10 2013, 6:05pm

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Interesting to see an opinion of someone rather un-hyped with AUJ and LotR [In reply to] Can't Post

http://www.youtube.com/...Tx16Rvnc4&sns=tw

May have been posted before.


“All good stories deserve embellishment."

Praise is subjective. And so is criticism.

"I am afraid it is only too likely to be true what you say about the critics and the public. I am dreading the publication for it will be impossible not to mind what is said. I have exposed my heart to be shot at."


BilboBagshot187
Rivendell


Dec 10 2013, 6:06pm

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Kermode loved LOTR and King Kong [In reply to] Can't Post

I personally thought King Kong would have been a great movie had it been about 45 minutes shorter! he was pretty meh about AUJ so Im very intrigued into what he thinks of DOS. I love Mark Kermode even though I don't always agree with his opinions.

King kong review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-FTrlAYWh8

AUJ review

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TojskuNRV4A

Unfortunately his LOTR reviews aren't on youtube.

'Everywhere I lie theres a dirty great root sticking into my back!'


sauget.diblosio
Tol Eressea


Dec 10 2013, 6:07pm

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Hilarious! [In reply to] Can't Post


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Bilbo rubs repeatedly on the Dwarven Chief Thorin Oakenshield

Yikes!


sauget.diblosio
Tol Eressea


Dec 10 2013, 6:13pm

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Agree about both Kermode and Kong. [In reply to] Can't Post

King Kong is a 2 hour masterpiece buried under a 3+ hour behemoth. Thanks for posting the King Kong review-- hadn't heard that one.


Wordofmask
Lorien

Dec 10 2013, 6:14pm

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This will explain everything about RT's score [In reply to] Can't Post

From http://flixster.desk.com/customer/portal/articles/62681-how-does-the-average-rating-differ-from-the-tomatometer-

The Average Rating measures the overal quality of a product based on an average of individual critic scores. The Tomatometer simply measures the percentage of critics who recommend a certain product.

For example, while Men in Black scored 91% on the Tomatometer, the average rating is only 7.5/10. That means that while you're likely to enjoy MIB, it wasn't a contender for Best Picture at the Oscars. In contrast, Toy Story received a perfect 100% on the Tomatometer with an average rating of 9/10. That means that you are not only certain to enjoy it, you'll also be impressed with the direction, story, cinematography, and all the other things that make truly great films great.

- Now DoS has 7.3 this is good when Catching Fire has 89 fresh but has average rating at 7.5.


Skaan
Lorien


Dec 10 2013, 6:15pm

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It still says 78% to me [In reply to] Can't Post

And yet it shows it has 28 reviews. Is it just RT being slow with updating? Or?


Voronwë_the_Faithful
Valinor

Dec 10 2013, 6:15pm

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That was really interesting [In reply to] Can't Post

Thanks for posting that.

'But very bright were the stars upon the margin of the world, when at times the clouds about the West were drawn aside.'

The Hall of Fire

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