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SCOD: Put Aside The Ranger

Silwen_Peredhil
Rivendell


Nov 24 2013, 7:14pm

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Welcome to another Screencap of the Day (sorry this is a late post).

Here is the image:

Full-size image can be found here



What struck me about this image was the way the characters are positioned on either side of the sword. The sword both divides and unites them.
1) What are your thoughts on the overall composition of the image?

2) What do you think about the lighting in this image?

3) What do you think about the music in this scene as Elrond presents Andúril to Aragorn and how it helps to symbolise the fact that the time of the elves is fading, while the time for men is coming?


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ELROND: Ónen i-Estel Edain. (I gave hope to the Dunedain)
ARAGORN: Ú-chebin Estel anim. (I have kept no hope for myself.)

This was based on the words of Gilrean to Aragorn which can be found in the story of Aragorn and Arwen at the back of the ROTK.
4) Do you like how this line was used here?

5) Any other thoughts or comments about this scene?

What's this? A Ranger caught off his guard?


BallyWhooo
Bree

Nov 24 2013, 9:52pm

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One of my favorite scenes from the trilogy [In reply to] Can't Post

The music is so beautiful. I think it's cool that this big, epic musical theme works so well in what is a very intimate scene. I think the music for these movies goes a long way towards making the back history feel real and very present in the lives of the characters.

It's also a moment that we've been waiting for for two and a half movies... for someone to tell Aragorn none too gently to face his doom. If Frodo was meant to find the Ring, then that means that Aragorn was "meant" to be in a position to overthrow Sauron's minions and take up the mantle of healer and King should the Ring's fate be that it is "meant" to be destroyed.


FaramirAndEowynMorningStar
Rohan


Nov 25 2013, 4:06pm

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Nice screencap there, Silwen! [In reply to] Can't Post

You really like to talk about the symbolic images, don't you? Tongue Anyway, here are my answers:

1) What are your thoughts on the overall composition of the image?
Like you said, I like the way they are positioned on either side of the sword as it shows that even though they do not get along well, they are united because they are both doing it to save Arwen.

2) What do you think about the lighting in this image?
I really like the way most of the warm light is on Aragorn, and even though Elrond is also in the light some of his face is in the shadow. It shows the hope Aragorn is bringing, and the way the time of the Elves is fading.

3) What do you think about the music in this scene as Elrond presents Andúril to Aragorn and how it helps to symbolise the fact that the time of the elves is fading, while the time for men is coming?
Truly epic music. I love the way it changes from the Rivendell theme into Gondor and it merges so beautifully that it would take a lifetime to describe it.


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ELROND: Ónen i-Estel Edain. (I gave hope to the Dunedain)
ARAGORN: Ú-chebin Estel anim. (I have kept no hope for myself.)

This was based on the words of Gilraen to Aragorn which can be found in the story of Aragorn and Arwen at the back of the ROTK.
4) Do you like how this line was used here?
Yes, indeed. Very touching to include it - especially since those were the words his mother said to him years before. That must have reminded him a lot of her...

5) Any other thoughts or comments about this scene?
I thought, the first time I saw this scene, the sword was going to hit the top of the tent... Laugh
It was (and still is) one of my favourite Aragorn scenes.

Thanks for [another] great discussion, Silwen - you are so good at coming up with these types of questions (your CHOW discussion was also excellent). Smile

..The Lord of Silver Fountains
.....The King of Carven Stone
..The King Under the Mountain
.......Shall come into his own

..And the bells will ring in gladness
......At the Mountain King's return
..But all shall fail in sadness
....And the lake will shine and burn


Harold.of.Whoa
Rivendell


Nov 26 2013, 4:43am

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1) What are your thoughts on the overall composition of the image?
Most times I am not conscious of the composition of shots on first viewing, but I remember being aware of it in this shot the very first time I watched. Very dramatic, very forceful in highlighting Aragorn’s moment of transition.

3) What do you think about the music in this scene as Elrond presents Andúril to Aragorn and how it helps to symbolise the fact that the time of the elves is fading, while the time for men is coming?
I love this music. Well-spotted in terms of the Rivendell music and the concept of the passing of the age. There is a great deal of storytelling in the Anduril music and its central theme “Minas Tirith”. This theme is introduced in FotR when Boromir is talking to Aragorn about hope (or lack thereof) and his desire to see the glory of Gondor restored, concluding with his hope that their paths would lead to the White City one day. The same theme reaches its ultimate variation at the opening shot of the coronation, where it gets merged with the other basic Gondorian theme and Aragorn’s music into a musical restoration of the glory of Gondor. This Anduril presentation music fits neatly into what I think is a musical cycle for Aragorn. I wrote a long post about it here: http://newboards.theonering.net/...ead%20on.%22;#438424

Anyway, the music makes this scene transcendent for me – very emotional and powerful when put into context with the origin of the motif (and the ending of FotR.)

4) Do you like how this line was used here?
Yes. I didn’t realize for a long time what the origin of the quote is. Now, when I watch the scene, it seems as though Elrond is familiar with and quoting Gilrean’s dying words, and Aragorn is finishing the quote. Very moving.


(This post was edited by Harold.of.Whoa on Nov 26 2013, 4:52am)


Silwen_Peredhil
Rivendell


Dec 6 2013, 12:13pm

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Thank you very much for the link [In reply to] Can't Post

I really enjoyed reading that. It was very well constructed. It made me consider the fact that a Gondor theme is heard in Rivendell in FOTR and is a quiet theme, almost like a faint call for aid, however Rivendell does not give any, perhaps because Aragorn is not yet willing to be king. In this scene however a Gondor theme is heard and this time Rivendell answers it by providing Aragorn with Andúril.

What's this? A Ranger caught off his guard?


Harold.of.Whoa
Rivendell


Dec 11 2013, 3:25am

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Thanks, Silwen, I'm glad you liked it [In reply to] Can't Post

I am sorry for the multi-colored highlighting of 'random' words in the post (at least that's the way it looks when I open the link.) It is not easy on the eyes to read it that way.

I used the search function to locate the post and linked the results. By the time I realized that all of the search words would be highlighted in the link, it was too late to edit it.


Magpie
Immortal


Dec 11 2013, 5:03am

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if you catch this reply... [In reply to] Can't Post

the best way to link to a post is to use the "Shortcut" link - top left of each post - under the poster's avatar (if they have one) and user name.



This is just the essential url without any settings or search terms worked into it. Either click it, then copy the url in the address bar... or right click it and choose 'copy link address'


LOTR soundtrack website ~ magpie avatar gallery
TORn History Mathom-house ~ Torn Image Posting Guide


Harold.of.Whoa
Rivendell


Dec 12 2013, 3:56am

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Great tip [In reply to] Can't Post

And awesome use of instructional graphics, I must say. (Such virtuosity should not go unacknowledged.)

So, let me practice. Here is the link to the post, sans the 5-color highlighting: http://newboards.theonering.net/...i?post=438424#438424

Thank you, M! Heart

[edit] Yep, works great!


(This post was edited by Harold.of.Whoa on Dec 12 2013, 3:57am)

 
 

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