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Join the discussions of Middle-earth in the second TORn Amateur Symposium

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Nov 17 2013, 6:20am

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Join the discussions of Middle-earth in the second TORn Amateur Symposium Can't Post

The Reading Room on the TORn messageboards has in the last couple of days kicked-off their second TORn Amateur Symposium (affectionately known as TAS).

The first TORn Amateur Symposium earlier this year published 13 essays on a variety of topics, and the second edition of TAS features nine more of which three have been published thus far, with the remainder to debut over the coming fortnight.

These essays may be philosophic opinions, scientific theories, or analytical approaches to understanding or highlighting some facet of Tolkien's writings and world. These pieces are written with the goal of amateur scholarship at their core -- thus inspiring our Symposium title. Authors may choose to include citations or footnotes, but they are by no means required. Keeping in mind the dual spirit of enjoyment and inquiry that we believe in (as much as we value cheer and song), and which is of paramount important to both the TAS team and our authors, we fully encourage discussion of the essays presented.

We hope you enjoy it as much as we enjoy posting it. The TAS is open for discussion, and any comments, questions or thought you wish to share about this essay can be posted in this response to this thread.

The Physics of The Hobbit: Barrels out of Bond
by DwellerinDale


This essay presents an analysis of one of the most iconic scenes in The Hobbit, the escape from the dungeons of the Woodland Realm. Bilbo Baggins, using his magic ring, is able to steal the keys to the dungeon cells and free the Dwarves. The company then escape by being packed into wooden wine casks and floating down the river toward Laketown.

In Tolkien's book, Bilbo packs each Dwarf into a wine barrel and seals the barrel with a lid. In The Desolation of Smaug, however, we know from previews that the barrels will be without lids, allowing us to see each of our characters as they negotiate the river and the rapids. This will undoubtedly produce a more visually exciting sequence than in the novel, but is it physically possible? Several members of TORn have criticized this scene on the basis of the physics. If the barrels have no lids, they argue, won’t they fill with water, causing them to sink and thus possibly drowning most of our main characters?

In Part One and Part Two of The Physics of The Hobbit I explained the basic physics of free fall, with and without air resistance. In this essay I will explain the basic physics of floating in water, including what happens to hollow objects when they fill with water. The concepts will then be applied to Barrels Out Of Bond.

[Link to full paper and discussion thread]

The Often Maligned God of Arda: How Eru is the Ultimate Hero of Middle-earth
by Rangerfromthenorth


In this paper I will explore the complex topic of Eru's providence and sovereignty in Arda. I have often run into Tolkien fans who either misunderstand Eru or some who even suggest that he is a terrible God. I believe they think this way because they are frustrated not with Eru but with God in the real world. This of course is a testament to how Tolkien's work is so excellently crafted that it naturally connects to our world. The misconceptions of fans stem from a failing to realize that how Tolkien conceived of God (from a Christian and Catholic perspective) greatly impacts how he portrays Eru. Any analysis of Eru must start with this reality.

This paper is not about rehashing the same tired arguments about Christianity and Tolkien, rather, this paper will look specifically at the providence of Eru in light of Tolkien's views and how, ultimately, Eru is the true hero of Middle-earth. Without Eru, evil would have never been defeated and we would have been robbed of the immense joy of reading the many chapters of Middle-earth history. I will examine several instances, starting with the creation account, showing that Eru is not detached but is working out his perfect plan as found in the Great Music of the Ainulindale.

[Link to full paper and discussion thread]

Galadriel: political animal of Middle-earth
by Demosthenes


Elves of Middle-earth in the Third Age are commonly held to be beings of magic and mystery, above human concerns and "petty" politicking. Especially so for Galadriel, regarded as some feminine aspect of the divine. However, evidence indicates that she accumulated, and wielded, political power in a most practical and pragmatic fashion.

[Link to full paper and discussion thread]

TAS2 has quite a full schedule of essays -- essays will posted every other day, followed by a catch-up day every three essays. The schedule can be found here. I'd encourage you to follow the links, have a read and join the discussion!

(This post was edited by entmaiden on Nov 17 2013, 2:50pm)


Nov 18 2013, 3:29pm

Post #2 of 3 (44 views)
Thanks for the post! [In reply to] Can't Post

The November TAS has been a great experience so far, and I'm sure will continue to be with a fantastic selection of essays and a lot of insightful (and fun, don't forget that) discussion. Cool We have essays running through December 1st this year, so plenty of time to read more and join in.

The second TORn Amateur Symposium is running right now, in the Reading Room. Come have a look and maybe stay to chat!

Riven Delve
Tol Eressea

Nov 20 2013, 12:40pm

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I have really enjoyed reading both the essays and discussions [In reply to] Can't Post

in the symposium, even though I haven't had time to post any comments myself.

I have been wanting to mention this, but wasn't sure where to post it in the Reading Room...this seems like the perfect place! Smile

Keep up the great discussions, everyone!

"Our perennial spiritual and psychological task is to look at things familiar until they become unfamiliar again." --G. K. Chesterton


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