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SCOD: Andúril - Flame of the West


Nov 19 2013, 7:18pm

Post #1 of 7 (442 views)
SCOD: Andúril - Flame of the West Can't Post

Welcome to another Screencap of the Day.

Here is the image:

Full-sized image can be found here

What struck me about this image was the triangle shape formed between the three characters

1) The colours during the scene where Aragorn is dreaming are very cold in tone. Then he steps into Théoden’s tent and the colour is full of shades of red. What do you think about this change in colour?

2) How does the colour contribute to the mood of this scene?

3) There are many props in this image. Are there any that stand out to you? What do you think they symbolise?

4) What do you think about the positioning of the characters in this image?

5) Any other thoughts/comments about this scene?

What's this? A Ranger caught off his guard?

Werde Spinner

Nov 20 2013, 4:16pm

Post #2 of 7 (243 views)
Okay, here are my thoughts. [In reply to] Can't Post

(1) - (2) Aragorn's dream was full of despair and fear, so the cold blues and grays in that scene perfectly suited the tone and helped convey those emotions to the viewers. Now, however, he has been awakened from his bad dreams and led to Elrond, who will give him Anduril, the Flame of the West. Red and orange colors are only appropriate for the bestowal of a sword twice named after fire (Narsil was 'the Light of Sun and Moon', right?). Also, it means that Elrond's coming and his bestowal of Anduril ensure that hope is rekindled for Aragorn, the hope of Men.

(3) The flags! I want to know more about the flags! I could have sworn that I read somewhere (Lord of the Rings: Weapons and Warfare?) that each King of Rohan had a specific flag of his own and that they used these to decorate Meduseld. I'm thinking that's Théoden's flag behind him and his chair. I assume also that that's a yellow-green-black horse on the flag to the far left, not a weird representation of Scatha the Worm (although that could be interesting, too). What is the one third from the left with the green and white stripes and the yellow 'remembrance' ribbon pattern over it? Also, the one to the far right with the concentric circles and the cross pattern - what does that symbolize??? Argh, I want to know.

(4) Elrond looks uncomfortable in this world of Men. Théoden looks uncomfortable being faced with an Elf. Aragorn has no idea what's going on yet.

(5) Why was it necessary to make Elrond look like the Emperor or a Nazgul before they revealed his face. I mean, really. His slouch reminds me of Denethor. Also, when your hood is pulled down that low, it *may* make you look very sneaky and mysterious, but you also can't see much of anything. Crazy

"I had forgotten that. It is hard to be sure of anything among so many marvels. The world is all grown strange. Elf and Dwarf in company walk in our daily fields; and folk speak with the Lady of the Wood and yet live; and the Sword comes back to war that was broken in the long ages ere the fathers of our fathers rode into the Mark! How shall a man judge what to do in such times?"

"As he ever has judged. Good and ill have not changed since yesteryear; nor are they one thing among Elves and Dwarves and another among Men. It is a man's part to discern them, as much in the Golden Wood as in his own house."


Nov 20 2013, 4:43pm

Post #3 of 7 (228 views)
I think [In reply to] Can't Post

the hood is so he is not recognized and captured, it could also double for symbolism of the fading of the elves etc. that Elrond is shrouding his "glory".

The Shire

Nov 20 2013, 5:58pm

Post #4 of 7 (238 views)
I always wanted to know... [In reply to] Can't Post

...why they would bring so much stuff just for an encampment? I mean, it's literally an overnight staging area before they ride off to war, yet the tent is adorned with furniture, candles, tapestries, decorations, etc...why the need for all that?

And what do trees have to talk about? Hmm...except the consistency of squirrel droppings?


Nov 23 2013, 4:28am

Post #5 of 7 (201 views)
Cermonial display... [In reply to] Can't Post

In Reply To
...why they would bring so much stuff just for an encampment? I mean, it's literally an overnight staging area before they ride off to war, yet the tent is adorned with furniture, candles, tapestries, decorations, etc...why the need for all that?

Could be that this was representing what might be the last time the King would ever see the trappings of his house and position and was making him as comfortable as could happen? In fact...it was!

KasDel the Last

"Do not meddle in the affairs of wizards, for they are subtle and quick to anger." Gildor

Tol Eressea

Nov 24 2013, 6:18pm

Post #6 of 7 (168 views)
This is the scene that i always realise [In reply to] Can't Post

just how HUGE Anduril really is. Mortensen seems barely able to manage unsheathing it!


Nov 24 2013, 6:31pm

Post #7 of 7 (185 views)
when writing the cue by cues for the ROTK track, Andúril, I wrote [In reply to] Can't Post

1:15 ...forged from the shards of Narsil." Elrond holds Andúril in front of Aragorn who takes a long time to look at it and consider his choices. The choir gives way as a glorious, heroic Minas Tirith Theme plays. The Rivendell Arpeggios continue under the theme.
1:29 Aragorn puts his hands on the sheathed sword and takes it.
1:32 "Sauron would not have forgotten the Sword of Elendil.", Aragorn muses.
1:38 Slowly, he puts his hand on the hilt and...
1:42 whips the sword out of it's scabbard, holding the blade tip up in the air. (It's a really.. long.. sword.)

I always think it's a tidge Freudian, myself. :-)

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