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Does anyone in the AUJ EE say "an unexpected journey"?

Earl
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Nov 17 2013, 7:41pm

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Does anyone in the AUJ EE say "an unexpected journey"? Can't Post

In each of the LOTR films, someone says the film's title, and from the trailer of DOS, we see Balin responding to Bilbo's "What is this place?" with "... the desolation of Smaug".

Since I don't yet have the AUJ EE, but I was curious whether anyone in the extended edition says "an unexpected journey"?

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Faleel
Rohan

Nov 17 2013, 7:45pm

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Well [In reply to] Can't Post

Bilbo does say "Nothing UNEXPECTED ever happened..."


Aitieuriskon
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Nov 17 2013, 7:46pm

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The closest we get [In reply to] Can't Post

Old Bilbo's final line in the TE, "and nothing unexpected ever happened" is I think as close as we get in AUJ.

"After all, I believe that legends and myths are largely made of 'truth', and indeed present aspects of it that can only be received in this mode; and long ago certain truths and modes of this kind were discovered and must always reappear." Professor Tolkien, 1951


Earl
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Nov 17 2013, 7:47pm

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It's not the same :( // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

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Earl
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Nov 17 2013, 7:49pm

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Thanks for the response [In reply to] Can't Post

I really liked how they fit the film titles in the dialogues in the LOTR films. Ah well...

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ecthelionsbeard
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Nov 17 2013, 7:55pm

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It was probably just an over sight on the film makers... [In reply to] Can't Post

The original three each had their respective names within dialogue and now we know it's the same for DOS. I think it's a safe bet they will work 'There and back again' as dialogue in film three. Strangely, this first movie is just missing it though. Hmmm... Unsure


Ataahua
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Nov 17 2013, 8:29pm

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In all these years [In reply to] Can't Post

I never twigged that each of the LOTR films' titles were in the films' dialogue!

To misquote Gandalf: "The LOTR films really are amazing movies, as I have said before. You can learn all that there is to know about them in a few months, and yet after 12 years they can still surprise you at a pinch.”

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

"Ah, how ironic, the addictive qualities of Sauron’s master weapon led to its own destruction. Which just goes to show, kids - if you want two small and noble souls to succeed on a mission of dire importance... send an evil-minded beggar with them too." - Gandalf's Diaries, final par, by Ufthak.


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Barrow-Wight
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Nov 17 2013, 8:45pm

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It would have sounded too forced [In reply to] Can't Post

I thought about it earlier I don't think they could have worked it in without it sounding bad in LOTR it wasn't so bad still a bit corny though

ELROND: You shall be THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING!

SARUMAN: Who now has the strength to stand against the armies of Isengard and Mordor? To stand against the might of
Sauron and Saruman and the union of THE TWO TOWERS?

GANDALF: Authority is not given to you to deny THE RETURN OF THE KING!

whenever I hear the title of the movie in the movie I'm reminded of the joke from family guy where they talked about the same thing lol



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Faleel
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Nov 17 2013, 8:48pm

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Most [In reply to] Can't Post

of those lines were in the book anyway.


Earl
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Nov 17 2013, 10:08pm

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Well, I'm sure they could've found a clever way [In reply to] Can't Post

Perhaps old Bilbo saying "It began with *clears throat* an unexpected journey" Smile

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Earl
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Nov 17 2013, 10:11pm

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Crazy right? I just learned a few months back that... [In reply to] Can't Post

... one of the Elves accompanying Arwen to the Grey Havens in ROTK is Jed Brophy. You can see him here at top and right.

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Silverlode
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Nov 17 2013, 11:52pm

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Well, since "An Unexpected Journey" isn't the name of the book.... [In reply to] Can't Post

or even the name of a chapter, the cases aren't quite the same. The Hobbit is the name of the book, and that was certainly used multiple times. The phrase "an unexpected journey" doesn't actually appear anywhere in the Hobbit book that I can remember. The chapter title is "An Unexpected Party". I think it would have been a bit awkward to work the unexpected journey phrase in, since the really unexpected thing was the party, during which the dwarves assume Bilbo knows what's going on, and Gandalf tries to talk Bilbo into going along. If they'd called it "An Unexpected Adventure", that might have been nearer the mark and a little easier to work reasonably into the script.

Silverlode

"Dark is the water of Kheled-zâram, and cold are the springs of Kibil-nâla, and fair were the many-pillared halls of Khazad-dűm in Elder Days before the fall of mighty kings beneath the stone."



Faleel
Rohan

Nov 18 2013, 1:07am

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An Unexpected Journey [In reply to] Can't Post

Is one of Bilbo's rejected titles for his memoirs.


Glorfindela
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Nov 18 2013, 1:18am

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Yes, you are right – I always thought those lines were rather cringeworthy [In reply to] Can't Post


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I thought about it earlier I don't think they could have worked it in without it sounding bad in LOTR it wasn't so bad still a bit corny though

ELROND: You shall be THE FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING!

SARUMAN: Who now has the strength to stand against the armies of Isengard and Mordor? To stand against the might of
Sauron and Saruman and the union of THE TWO TOWERS?

GANDALF: Authority is not given to you to deny THE RETURN OF THE KING!

whenever I hear the title of the movie in the movie I'm reminded of the joke from family guy where they talked about the same thing lol



Faleel
Rohan

Nov 18 2013, 1:22am

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Yeah [In reply to] Can't Post

Stupid Tolkien


Barrow-Wight
Lorien


Nov 18 2013, 1:23am

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yes it was [In reply to] Can't Post

And I've been meaning to mention it but I keep forgetting lol thanks


Earl
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Nov 18 2013, 3:10am

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Was it really? Or was it "An Unexpected Adventure"? [In reply to] Can't Post

I need to check my book. There's suddenly too many variations on this and I admit I'm totally confused Laugh

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Glorfindela
Valinor


Nov 18 2013, 10:29am

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No – not 'stupid Tolkien' [In reply to] Can't Post

But the delivery of these lines in the films was decidedly cringeworthy and forced.


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MTT Gandalf
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Nov 18 2013, 10:37am

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"My Unexpected Journey" from LOTR [In reply to] Can't Post

 
The "Unexpected Journey" title appears only in The Return of the King. It was in the Red Book:

My Diary.
My Unexpected Journey.

There and Back Again.
And What Happened After.

Adventures of Five Hobbits.
The Tale of the Great Ring, compiled by
Bilbo Baggins from his own observations and the accounts of his friends.
What we did in the War of the Ring.





DarkWixardAaron
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Nov 18 2013, 3:23pm

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My opinion [In reply to] Can't Post

I personally don't think that Bilbo had a clue what was going to happen, i mean he can expect all he wants but the stuff that went down.. Nah, i would never expect that. Lmao.


The Grey Pilgrim
Lorien


Nov 18 2013, 4:55pm

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Nope!.... but we already know we get "The Desolation of Smaug" spoken [In reply to] Can't Post

by Balin in DOS.
And I'm sure it's almost certain we will hear "There and Back Again" spoken in TABA.

Way to break the continuity AUJ! Tongue


BlackCountry
Rivendell


Nov 19 2013, 6:40am

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Not necessarily his fault! [In reply to] Can't Post

As he never really wanted the book split into 3 Volumes in the first place, at the behest of his Publisher! ;)

I do not want what it is not mine.... I only want what comes from within....

 
 

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