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Bard's Poem


Nov 10 2013, 4:45pm

Post #1 of 7 (647 views)
Bard's Poem Can't Post

I thought it was great they included the Lake-Town song in the new trailer I immediatly reckonised it, But I wasn't sure about the Lakes shining and burning line so I looked it up and sure enough it's in there but in a different context it's amazing how switching up the lines and just two words changed it from a song of hope and gladness to a prophecy of doom

The King beneath the mountains,
The King of carven stone,
The lord of silver fountains
Shall come into his own!

His crown shall be upholden,
His harp shall be restrung,
His halls shall echo golden
To songs of yore re-sung.

The woods shall wave on mountains
And grass beneath the sun;
His wealth shall flow in fountains
And the rivers golden run.

The streams shall run in gladness,
The lakes shall shine and burn,
All sorrow fail and sadness
At the Mountain-king's return!

any reason why they did this? they tend to do this a lot change the lines around for some reason like in blunt the knives


Nov 10 2013, 4:53pm

Post #2 of 7 (380 views)
Now that it's more of a dark prophecy being read than a song.... [In reply to] Can't Post

... I think it was changed for dramatic reasons.

The Grey Pilgrim, they once called me. Three hundred lives of men I walked this earth, and now I have no time...


Nov 10 2013, 6:39pm

Post #3 of 7 (290 views)
To tighten the drama [In reply to] Can't Post

In the book the people of Laketown sing the song, expecting all sorts of wonderful things to come of Thorin's return, and Bard thinks them fools and predicts disaster. For the film they've given the poem to him and turned it into a prediction of disaster - in line with his other speeches that we've seen on trailers. It injects a bit more darkness and menace.


Nov 10 2013, 8:03pm

Post #4 of 7 (219 views)
It could be [In reply to] Can't Post

like in the first AUJ trailer where they spliced the Dwarves' song up. Maybe in the movie, we'll hear the full version of this poem but also hear Bard's prophetic reading of it.


Nov 10 2013, 8:27pm

Post #5 of 7 (212 views)
Prophecies are often rendered in verse [In reply to] Can't Post

Possibly, that is because they are spread by bards and minstrels.

'There are older and fouler things than Orcs in the deep places of the world.' - Gandalf the Grey, The Fellowship of the Ring


Nov 10 2013, 9:05pm

Post #6 of 7 (197 views)
This makes me so curious about the Master of Lake Town and his counselor. [In reply to] Can't Post

And how they will portrait their acts towards Thorin & Co and their quest, despite the dark prophecy.


Nov 10 2013, 11:34pm

Post #7 of 7 (131 views)
They may not even hear the prophecy... [In reply to] Can't Post

If it's something Bard knows - there was no sign of who he's speaking to. He might be saying it to himself.


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