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SPOILERS! Sympathy for Orcs?

boldog
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Nov 5 2013, 9:46am


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After I just read on the one ring.net home page about the 20 minutes of extra footage, one scene caught my attention. It was the part to do with the Orc interrogation. Quoted from the article below



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At that point, Thranduil’s expression changes to one that almost says “Oh s***!” And let’s face it, when a Telerin elf gets that kind of a look on his face, things are bad. Rather than continue questioning the orc, Thranduil quickly unsheathes a sword and decapitates him. Legolas is clearly upset by this, telling his father that he promised to free him. Thranduil replies by saying “I did. I freed him from this world.”


Now Apparently Thranduil Promised to free the Orc before hand, but after he said "my master serves the one" Thranduil does what is quoted above. But Legolas' reaction to it stood out a lot to me. I know its the smallest detail of the whole film, but why would he even want to free an orc!? Wont it just go and wreak more havoc? But that's what I like about the whole thing. Perhaps this is an insight to Legolas' personality, in which he doesn't like to break promises? His father did so, and so he was grieved to see what he did. Could this also mean that there may be a bit of dynamic with the orcs in these films? Something like this, A good guy, being somewhat grieved by the death of one, to me, shows the orcs aren't just evil beings who are killed without any regret. This little dynamic may lead to larger things such as Azog/Bolg relationship. whether their relationship will be close or not depends on how much Dynamic is added to the orcs.
To me this scene can also serve as an establishment for Thranduil as an antagonising character. Being SO ruthless and merciless to an orc, that makes even his own son upset by his actions, is a really antagonising characteristic.
what are your thougghts? and before I leave WHAT A PERFECT DAY TODAY! now all I want is to be sitting in the theatre with a nice big bucket of popcorn watching the title sequence come forth! bring on December 26!!

"And do you really think, Thorin Oakenshield, that Bolg will have the slightest symphony for you? After he watched you hack his fathers hand off, so ruthlessly in Moria. Azogs defeat has brought nothing to you, only refuelled hate of his kin, upon yours"

(This post was edited by boldog on Nov 5 2013, 9:49am)

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SPOILERS! Sympathy for Orcs? boldog Send a private message to boldog Nov 5 2013, 9:46am
    It is about keeping one's word, and slaying a defenseless captive. Only AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 5 2013, 9:51am
        Sort of like... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Nov 5 2013, 10:48am
            The mouth of Sauron Shirriff Anthony Send a private message to Shirriff Anthony Nov 5 2013, 11:13am
                I agree that it was out of character... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Nov 5 2013, 11:27am
                    Then again, Grima was still just a human, even if a pathetic and scheming one Oin K Send a private message to Oin K Nov 5 2013, 6:07pm
            And you know it. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 5 2013, 11:45pm
    I absolutely love... Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Nov 5 2013, 10:00am
    hmm book Gandalf Send a private message to book Gandalf Nov 5 2013, 12:01pm
    Promises can be broken stoutfiles Send a private message to stoutfiles Nov 5 2013, 2:17pm
        Yeah..... Avandel Send a private message to Avandel Nov 5 2013, 2:58pm
            It's Tywin and not Tyrion who says that ;-) Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Send a private message to Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Nov 5 2013, 3:45pm
                my bad.... Avandel Send a private message to Avandel Nov 5 2013, 7:07pm
        They just wouldn't let him go. A broken oath is bad business, especially AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 5 2013, 11:48pm
    In the depths of their souls, Cillendor Send a private message to Cillendor Nov 5 2013, 7:57pm
        I had always wondered if Tolkien had left a door open for orcs to be redeemed. Eruvandi Send a private message to Eruvandi Nov 5 2013, 9:18pm
    "Perry-the-Winkle" Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Nov 5 2013, 11:10pm
    This scene made me go [MORE SPOILERS] Lio Send a private message to Lio Nov 6 2013, 1:52am
        I would like to think they will need to tone it down a touch. I cannot say with American AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 6 2013, 5:06am
            I'm American and I would prefer it be toned down a bit Eruvandi Send a private message to Eruvandi Nov 6 2013, 2:58pm
                "Girl" (if you are female, and not in the derogatory sense, but in the vernacular, "female friend!" sense), I am a North American, American tooo, AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 6 2013, 7:02pm
                    Amen my American brother! I'm sick of it too! Eruvandi Send a private message to Eruvandi Nov 7 2013, 3:20am
                        Absolute agreement. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Nov 7 2013, 7:04am
                            The double standard in Hollywood is truly disturbing. Eruvandi Send a private message to Eruvandi Nov 7 2013, 4:20pm
    Interesting LoTR find Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Nov 13 2013, 12:38am

 
 
 

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