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The Best Thing About the New Trilogy
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Elutherian
Rohan


Oct 31 2013, 1:40am

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This question is even directed at you haters out there. lol

For me, undoubtedly the best thing is Thranduil. Has there ever been better casting for a role in Middle-Earth (other than Sir Ian for Gandalf, of course)?

The Grey Pilgrim, they once called me. Three hundred lives of men I walked this earth, and now I have no time...


Metal Slug
Rivendell

Oct 31 2013, 1:49am

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Its hard to say before we even see him [In reply to] Can't Post

play a speaking role.

I like seeing more of the dwarves. Despite the crew's notion that they are more prone to slapstick and self deprecating humor. Would have liked a slightly more dignified image in general. Also, I don't really care for the production's dwarven weapon designs. They look almost paleolithic (the swords,) when dwarves were supposed to have some of the best and most advanced weapons. I'm not saying elven craftsmanship was poor, but dwarven steel should be better than human and shouldn't look like stone.

In short, dwarven culture.


MouthofSauron
Tol Eressea


Oct 31 2013, 1:58am

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Thranduil is going to be amazing! i also like how we have orcs as the main villains (Azog/Bolg) this time instead of Saruman/Sauron.


take me down to the woodland realm where the trees are green and the elf women are pretty....Oh will you please take me home!!

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jtarkey
Rohan


Oct 31 2013, 2:22am

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Thranduil looks awesome. agreed. [In reply to] Can't Post

How he will perform on screen is yet to be seen, but I'm definitely optimistic about him.

I wouldn't say he's the best thing just yet. Martin Freeman is such a ridiculously perfect Bilbo that he just melts into the world. I almost forget about how perfect he is because he blends in that well.

I do like what we've seen of Mirkwood in terms of design so far. I'm still not a fan of the ridiculous CGI, but at least the designs themselves are still attractive. Erebor looks fantastic as well.

"You're love of the halflings leaf has clearly slowed your mind"


haarp
Rivendell


Oct 31 2013, 2:28am

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We've seen him perform in AUJ and he was amazing, he didn't have to speak, you can tell by the way he used body language that he knew what he was doing.


OrphanOfNumenor
Bree


Oct 31 2013, 2:34am

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I think we will be blown away by smaug. Especially with his voice booming through the speakers in the theater: "Smaug: [laughs] Revenge? You? I am SMAUG! I kill when I wish! I am strong, strong, STRONG! My armor is like tenfold shields! My teeth like swords! My claws, spears! The shock of my tail, a thunderbolt! My wings, a hurricane! And my breath, death! "

"The Men of the Sea send before them a great cloud, as a rain turned to serpents, or a black hail tipped with steel."


Smeagol Bagginsess
Rivendell


Oct 31 2013, 3:14am

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Could have been perfect if they had been given a good script.
RA would have been a grand Thorin if he had more beard and less backstory.

The best as of yet has been Freeman. Perfect.

Smaug and Bard can be great but I shall wait.

I dislike the over-pompousity of Thranduil. One would think he surpasses Elrond in might and wisdom.


Ataahua
Superuser / Moderator


Oct 31 2013, 3:19am

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I remember wondering how they were going to represent the Balrog. [In reply to] Can't Post

Those designs were kept well under wraps, and it was a big question about how they were going to depict a creature wreathed in shadow and flame. The FOTR trailer that showed a brief shot of the Balrog's flaming heel (as he chased the Fellowship) gave us a clue ... but when he was revealed in all his flaming glory on screen I think my brain seized. Utterly fantastic. Beyond what I could have hoped for.

I'm a bit less certain about Smaug as the shot we saw of him in the first trailer didn't blow my socks off. But I'm hoping that image we've seen doesn't do Smaug justice, by a long shot, and that Weta have actually pulled out of their hat another iconic beastie for the ages. (Certainly the sound design for his voice in the second trailer is superb.)

Celebrimbor: "Pretty rings..."
Dwarves: "Pretty rings..."
Men: "Pretty rings..."
Sauron: "Mine's better."

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Yngwulff
Gondor


Oct 31 2013, 3:48am

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All plot/canon diversions aside, the casting, acting, set design and have been spot on amazing.
You feel like they are the real deal and actually in moddle earth during these films.

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Kim
Valinor


Oct 31 2013, 4:21am

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so I'll go with my top 5:

1) The lighter tone
2) The brighter visuals
3) The cast, especially Ian McKellen, Martin Freeman and Richard Armitage
4) The music
5) We get 3 more movies in Middle Earth!

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Elk2013
The Shire


Oct 31 2013, 9:49am

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before I kicked this thread open.
Always love the book!Thrandy since I first read THE HOBBIT ten years ago, and Lee Pace is likely to give us a wonderful Elven King.


sauget.diblosio
Tol Eressea


Oct 31 2013, 11:09am

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Martin Freeman.// [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Thranderz
Rohan


Oct 31 2013, 11:13am

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I simply walked into Mordor.


Endor Dweller
Bree


Oct 31 2013, 11:31am

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Glorfindela
Valinor


Oct 31 2013, 11:45am

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Especially Ian McKellen, Richard Armitage, Martin Freeman and Ken Stott. I also have high hopes for Lee Pace, and for the characters of Beorn and Smaug.

In addition, I really like the depictions of Middle-Earth in the film, the colours, and sequences like the Erebor prologue and the Eagles, which are outstanding.


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This question is even directed at you haters out there. lol

For me, undoubtedly the best thing is Thranduil. Has there ever been better casting for a role in Middle-Earth (other than Sir Ian for Gandalf, of course)?



(This post was edited by Glorfindela on Oct 31 2013, 11:45am)


Peterthorn of Rohan
Rivendell

Oct 31 2013, 12:01pm

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hate the character of thranduil(both film and book).The best casting choice is martin freeman as bilbo!


Eleniel
Tol Eressea


Oct 31 2013, 12:40pm

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Alan Lee, John Howe & Richard Taylor. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


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Bombadil
Half-elven


Oct 31 2013, 1:02pm

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John Howe & Alan Lee.

In Bomby's Opinion....


Kilidoescartwheels
Gondor

Oct 31 2013, 1:41pm

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the SCENERY!!! Absolutely LOVE the outdoor shots, especially Ernshaw Burn with all those waterfalls - that's why I'm planning to make my own trip to Middle-Earth! The casting is so good I can't find any fault in it, but I suppose Martin would be the best NEW cast member (and that's saying alot since I'm crushing on Richard Armitage right nowHeart). I'm sure Lee Pace will be great, too, but I'm most looking forward to Bard and Smaug in the 2nd movie. Really could have done without the whole Azog thing, and could care less about Bolg.


Bumblingidiot
Rohan

Oct 31 2013, 1:43pm

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I think the best thing will be that, just as with the books, people will really enjoy The Hobbit, but will be stunned when they watch FOTR, as they won't be expecting the quality and depth of storytelling, not to mention the beautiful ethereal cinematography of the older trilogy.

The Hobbit will (if they don't mess it up) be a good taster for the main event.

"Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear."


burgahobbit
Rohan


Oct 31 2013, 5:21pm

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The Hobbit will (if they don't mess it up) be a good taster for the main event.



And it may make people appreciate the main event even more. I really like how they set some things up in The Hobbit. The so called "echoes" in The Hobbit from the Lord of the Rings Trilogy, I personally like to think of more as foreshadowing's of what's to come. It's kind of the reverse of what the critics are thinking. The Hobbit comes first for the viewers and Lord of the Rings echoes back to it. Gollum's "It's ours, It's ours!" will mean more now in LOTR as will "Mustn't ask us, not its business!" I don't think they overused this reusing of lines too much, but just enough. The very best one is the first line of the movie..."My dear Frodo..." The very last scene of Return of the King begins the same way with Frodo speaking to Sam, "My dear Sam..."

Whether it all works or not I'll never really know for myself since I've already seen the Lord of the Rings movies, but I think that the filmmakers have set up, quite nicely, a journey that new viewers can take from An Unexpected Journey to the Return of the King.

"I've found it is the small things, everyday deeds of ordinary folk, that keeps the darkness at bay. Simple acts of kindness and love. Why Bilbo Baggins? Perhaps it is because I’m afraid, and he gives me courage.” - Gandalf the Grey.

"Do not be afraid Mithrandir, if ever you should need my help, I will come." - Lady Galadriel.

(This post was edited by burgahobbit on Oct 31 2013, 5:22pm)


Faenoriel
Tol Eressea


Oct 31 2013, 5:22pm

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It used to be such an under appreciated part of Middle-Earth, but now people have found them!

But every word you say today
Gets twisted 'round some other way
And they'll hurt you if they think you've lied


dormouse
Half-elven


Oct 31 2013, 5:59pm

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These - couldn't agree more... [In reply to] Can't Post

... very closely followed by the cast, and the music.

Can't judge anything from DoS yet, as I haven't seen it


Eleniel
Tol Eressea


Oct 31 2013, 7:22pm

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"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
¯ Victoria Monfort


Ranger
The Shire

Oct 31 2013, 7:50pm

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Aside from the obvious (three new films in Middle-earth!), I enjoy the fresh push in LotR merchandise: board and card games, video games and LEGO Smile

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