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Maciliel
Tol Eressea


Oct 25 2013, 6:40pm

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clothing in sci fi Can't Post

 
i must deduce that people in the future don't need to "use the facilities" often or ever, because of the predominance of full-body unitards, catsuits, jumpsuits, and body stockings.

it's especially puzzling in depictions of the military or other uniformed services, where (usually) utility gets taken into account.

so, we can look forward to a future in which we no longer need the loo, toilets restrooms, bathrooms, or powder rooms. hurrah!


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aka. fili orc-enshield
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the scene, as i understand it, is exceptionally well-written. fili (in sort of a callback to the scene with the eagles), calls out "thorRIIIIIIN!!!" just as he sees the pale orc veer in for the kill. he picks up the severed arm of an orc which is lying on the ground, swings it up in desperation, effectively blocking the pale orc's blow. and thus, forever after, fili is known as "fili orc-enshield."

this earns him deep respect from his hard-to-please uncle. as well as a hug. kili wipes his boots on the pale orc's glory box. -- maciliel telpemairo


CuriousG
Valinor


Oct 25 2013, 7:11pm

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There are tiny teleportation devices [In reply to] Can't Post

discreetly located at certain bodily orifices that teleport away the waste as soon as it appears, so it need never bother you again.

That said, I think most sci-fi movie clothing looks awfully uncomfortable, and I wouldn't want to wear it.


elaen32
Gondor


Oct 25 2013, 7:18pm

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Sounds delightful CG!! [In reply to] Can't Post

Just as long as the coordinates to which said waste is teleported, are a long long way away.
Re sci-fi clothing- I would imagine it being a bit fragrant and sweaty, since it appears to be mostly made of lycra- type materials!!FrownShocked


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Advising Elf
Rohan


Oct 25 2013, 8:02pm

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Bill Theiss, costume designer for Star Trek TOS... [In reply to] Can't Post

... once said that all futuristic clothing that he had seen "designed" looked like long underwear.

He may have said pajamas, but you get the idea.

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CuriousG
Valinor


Oct 25 2013, 8:12pm

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Indeed [In reply to] Can't Post

The waste is teleported to a galaxy a long time ago and far, far away, which is the real reason why the Old Republic fell and Yoda sought refuge on an unknown planet--to get away from the stench.


elaen32
Gondor


Oct 25 2013, 8:28pm

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Well..... [In reply to] Can't Post

I did always wonder how the Death Star was fuelled and the REAL reason for Darth Vader's respiratorTongueFrownShockedEvil


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Maciliel
Tol Eressea


Oct 25 2013, 9:19pm

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william ware theiss [In reply to] Can't Post

 
pioneered anti-gravity with many of his costumes for trek females.

i saw the trek costumes exhibit at the smithsonian. the materials were exceedingly cheap, but they sure did look good on camera.


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aka. fili orc-enshield
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the scene, as i understand it, is exceptionally well-written. fili (in sort of a callback to the scene with the eagles), calls out "thorRIIIIIIN!!!" just as he sees the pale orc veer in for the kill. he picks up the severed arm of an orc which is lying on the ground, swings it up in desperation, effectively blocking the pale orc's blow. and thus, forever after, fili is known as "fili orc-enshield."

this earns him deep respect from his hard-to-please uncle. as well as a hug. kili wipes his boots on the pale orc's glory box. -- maciliel telpemairo


Advising Elf
Rohan


Oct 25 2013, 9:28pm

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I'll second that. [In reply to] Can't Post

The look good on camera part. ;o)

Well, the rest also.

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dernwyn
Forum Admin / Moderator


Oct 25 2013, 9:30pm

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Anti-gravity clothing [In reply to] Can't Post

That gown from "Who Mourns for Adonais" was a classic!


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Donry
Tol Eressea


Oct 25 2013, 10:00pm

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They don't need to... [In reply to] Can't Post

cause in the future there are flying cars, teleporters, smart space monkeys, androids and time travel. I'm sure they have 'purged' that process from human beings by then.

What's the matter, James? No glib remark? No pithy comeback?"

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RosieLass
Valinor


Oct 25 2013, 11:05pm

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Haha! I was at a Star Trek convention once with William Shatner as a guest. [In reply to] Can't Post

And someone asked him what Captain Kirk did when he needed to "use the head."

He replied that he went down the hall to the men's room, same as the camera man did.

It was classic.

"BOTH [political] extremes are dangerous. But more dangerous are team fanboys who think all the extremists are on the OTHER side." (CNN reader comment)

It is always those with the fewest sensible things to say who make the loudest noise in saying them. --Precious Ramotswe (Alexander McCall Smith)


Donry
Tol Eressea


Oct 26 2013, 12:19am

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Classic... [In reply to] Can't Post

I love that Shatner guy.....cannot believe he is as old as he is....I keep thinking one of these days soon we'll be reading his obit some where. Cannot imagine the tribute shows for that guy.

What's the matter, James? No glib remark? No pithy comeback?"

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RosieLass
Valinor


Oct 26 2013, 1:02am

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He and Leonard Nimoy are just a couple months apart in age. [In reply to] Can't Post

I can't remember who is older.

They're my mom's age.

"BOTH [political] extremes are dangerous. But more dangerous are team fanboys who think all the extremists are on the OTHER side." (CNN reader comment)

It is always those with the fewest sensible things to say who make the loudest noise in saying them. --Precious Ramotswe (Alexander McCall Smith)


Donry
Tol Eressea


Oct 26 2013, 1:27am

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Yeah..... [In reply to] Can't Post

I am happy they are both still kicking.....Nimoy clearly not as active publicly....I always favoured Spock in that series....but am extremely fond of Shatner. Would be weird yet somehow karmic to see them both pass on around the same time.

What's the matter, James? No glib remark? No pithy comeback?"

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acheron
Gondor


Oct 26 2013, 3:34pm

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Theiss's theory [In reply to] Can't Post

was that the sexiness of clothing was proportional to the degree they looked like they were about to fall off. Cool

For instance, on the planet Earth, man had always assumed that he was more intelligent than dolphins because he had achieved so much -- the wheel, New York, wars, and so on -- while all the dolphins had ever done was muck about in the water having a good time. But conversely, the dolphins had always believed that they were far more intelligent than man, for precisely the same reasons. -- Douglas Adams


Maciliel
Tol Eressea


Oct 26 2013, 6:05pm

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yes [In reply to] Can't Post

 
i'm familiar with the theiss theorem. he and i disagree, however. : ) i think some of his costumes were fantastic for tos, but many were ridiculous, including the female star fleet mini-dress uniform.


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aka. fili orc-enshield
+++++++++++++++++++
the scene, as i understand it, is exceptionally well-written. fili (in sort of a callback to the scene with the eagles), calls out "thorRIIIIIIN!!!" just as he sees the pale orc veer in for the kill. he picks up the severed arm of an orc which is lying on the ground, swings it up in desperation, effectively blocking the pale orc's blow. and thus, forever after, fili is known as "fili orc-enshield."

this earns him deep respect from his hard-to-please uncle. as well as a hug. kili wipes his boots on the pale orc's glory box. -- maciliel telpemairo


Meneldor
Tol Eressea


Oct 26 2013, 8:50pm

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I don't really have anything to add [In reply to] Can't Post

to this topic, but it seems like a good place to share a picture of Ann Francis.

Le sigh.




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Advising Elf
Rohan


Oct 27 2013, 12:46am

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I love those uniforms! [In reply to] Can't Post

*checks profile* Yep. You're female. ;o)

I think the network ordered those, BTW. The originalf emale uniforms were slacks, like the male ones.

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Kim
Valinor


Oct 27 2013, 1:17am

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Gotta agree with you [In reply to] Can't Post

on the mini-dress uniforms. I can kind of understand in TOS since that's what women were wearing at the time, but in TNG? Nope.


Kalimac
Bree


Oct 27 2013, 4:07am

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Maybe zipper technology has advanced [In reply to] Can't Post

to the point where invisible zippers are truly invisible?


swordwhale
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2013, 3:46pm

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bwaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [In reply to] Can't Post

As somebody who has lived in those things on occasion, I must agree.

Any diver who claims to never have pee-peed in their wetsuit is lying.

I kayak in my diveskin (a spandex full body sun&jellyfish-proof Highly Useful Suit) to avoid both sunburn (and the annyance of reapplying sunscreen to eternally wet skin)(as well as avoidinng the most annoying denizen of the Chesapeake Bay: the sea nettle). A "shore leave" moment is hastened by the need to peel, at warp speed, a whole lot of spandex while in a stinky dinky portapotti.

Let's hear it for good ol'pants.

Except in some situations (like being in or on water) loose clothing is annoying in the extreme, you want form-fitting. Even if your form is imperfect. On bikes or horses, loose clothing becomes not only annoying, but can lead to injuries when rubbing the wrong way or catching in moving parts of the thing you're on.

Go outside and play...






swordwhale
Tol Eressea


Oct 27 2013, 3:49pm

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Trek [In reply to] Can't Post

saw that exhibit too, and on close inspection, one realized just how LOW their budget was! (Is that Romulan tunic really a towel???)

On the other hand, they did a great job of making it look good on screen, and of writing good, relevant stories and having great characters.

For those of you who haven't seen the exhibit, it pointed out the relationship between the series and the 60s, how each influenced the other.

Go outside and play...






Kalimac
Bree


Oct 28 2013, 6:20am

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At least when you're diving you're already wet [In reply to] Can't Post

In space, everyone can see your pee.


swordwhale
Tol Eressea


Oct 28 2013, 1:46pm

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bwaaaaaa haaaaaaa haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa [In reply to] Can't Post

ha ha haLaugh

Go outside and play...






Advising Elf
Rohan


Oct 28 2013, 2:24pm

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Mini-skirts were the least of TNGs problems. [In reply to] Can't Post

Sorry, I'm a TOS Trekkie (NOT Trekker) all the way.

AAMOF, I usually respond to references to other ST shows with, "What other Star Trek shows? There is only ONE Star Trek!"

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