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"The Misty Mountains Cold": a turning point?

Brethil
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Oct 25 2013, 5:20pm


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The magnificent scene in which Thorin leads the Company in song. One of my favorite moments.

Firstly, what did you think of the choice of acapella for this rendition?

Each Dwarf is pictured here, as the camera pans slowly around the room. I would like to touch upon their reactions and their characterizations as we see them revealed without dialogue, plus the net effect of the scene.
It begins at Kili's back, entering the room; where we see Bifur stand first among all the Dwarves.


Thorin begins to sing, with his back half to the Company,








and we pan slowly to Balin - sitting, looking very, very sadly into the fire.




[Fili was in this shot was not Dean O'Gorman. His figure is wreathed in smoke, and we get no other close up, presumably due to the casting change.]

Dori stands half in, half out of the room - with one foot on the step and looking down the hall and away from the Company; it is like he is halfway to departing in some way - quite literally with one foot out of the door.




Oin sits in he back with shadow covering his face, across from his brother. Interesting n(and perhaps a foreshadowing?) - of all the Dwarves his reaction is the most hidden.

Kili's seems to be trying very hard to look grim and determined, from his tense posture to his frown. In the firelight his youth and slenderness seems very apparent. The song has even brought Bombur from the table.





Gandalf is deep in thought, but not with the Dwarves - he sits quite alone, frowning.





Nori, whose back was to the others, has turned very slowly, by degrees and almost against his will it seems, called away from the window to join in the low hum.






Ori rises, with his book in hand, clear-eyed and curious yet seemingly untouched; Dwalin still remains seated, watching Thorin silently. He does not sing.





Bilbo is also sitting alone, his brow furrowed, listening.


Balin has finally slowly (almost painfully) risen to stand beside Thorin, and Thorin now turns towards the Company to face them. His has raised his hand to just below his heart, covering the viscera. As Balin sings, standing at Thorin's side, his eyes do not look at anyone, particularly Thorin it seems, but into some distance to the left of the fire.






Dori is looking closely and with deep significance at Ori,




and Nori has moved forward and joined his brothers. Playful Bofur is quite serious here and chooses to clearly sing the words, not the harmonized hum - perhaps the most clearly heard of the singers next to Thorin. He is utterly sincere.
Dwalin has now stood, his mighty arms closed and locked across his chest; as he stands, now not looking at Thorin, but somewhere off to the side. His lips move only slightly. Gloin's eyes are very far away, and he looks deep in memory.





Bilbo is against the bedrail, with a sad and weary look as he watches his tiny fire. The shot closes beautifully with the small, hot sparks joining the larger night sky, jewelled with cold stars. Voices fade into silence.



Thorin's song has impacted all the Dwarves in the room; Dwarves moved around, their eyes and their postures told stories . What patterns can you see in the above reactions?


- For example, with the brothers Ori, Nori and Dori?
- What do Balin's actions say about how he is feeling about the Quest?
- Bifur rising first. Does this change your perceptions of him from earlier in the film?
- What does Thorin himself tell you with his movements?
- Dwalin's reaction is complex and multilayered. What's happening here?
- Our chipper class clown, Bofur: quite a different view here isn't it?
- Can you tell who was at the Mountain the day Smaug came from their reactions? Or no?
- The net reaction to Thorin's singing - what do you see?

Gandalf later says he did not doubt Bilbo joining. Yet as the Dwarves sing, do you think Gandalf is feeling at all confident?
Bilbo starts listening with a frown, and as the song closes he looks drained and sad - undecided perhaps? Touching again on influences on Bilbo: how much do you think the song had upon him? In relation to Gandalf's words earlier - more influence or less?

What do you think about the choice of the sparks in the sky as the closing shot here? What does that image say to you?


Is there a Tolkien topic that you have wanted to look into more deeply, and write about your thoughts on it? If so, we'd like to hear from you for the next TORn Amateur Symposium- coming in November. Happy writing!




Subject User Time
CHOWS Chapter: Bilbo's Choice Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Oct 25 2013, 4:58pm
    "The Misty Mountains Cold": a turning point? Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Oct 25 2013, 5:20pm
        Heh, heh- yes, another favourite moment indeed! elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 Oct 25 2013, 6:49pm
            Politics behind the emotion Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Oct 26 2013, 12:10am
        Since you asked... Dame Ioreth Send a private message to Dame Ioreth Oct 25 2013, 9:23pm
            Congrats on making it to Rivendell! Kim Send a private message to Kim Oct 25 2013, 11:36pm
            Congrats on your 100th post!!!! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Oct 26 2013, 12:22am
        Wonderful scenes, all three of them. The song, in particular, ranks as one of my favorite Middle-earth moments. Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Oct 26 2013, 12:28am
            Your wonderful avatar is almost back in season Macfeast! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Oct 26 2013, 1:03am
                Jingle beards, jingle beards, jingle all the way! // Macfeast Send a private message to Macfeast Oct 26 2013, 1:29am
                    This *needs* to be a Holiday song!!!! // Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Oct 26 2013, 5:02pm
        Where Bilbo's choice really occurs Riven Delve Send a private message to Riven Delve Oct 26 2013, 12:09pm
        The Misty Mountains song is possibly my favourite moment in AUJ. Noria Send a private message to Noria Oct 26 2013, 1:42pm
            The Dwarves and the song... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Oct 26 2013, 5:01pm
        The sparks Nunilo Send a private message to Nunilo Oct 31 2013, 11:28pm
            Nice take on the spark shot Nunilo! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Nov 1 2013, 12:52am
    Well..... elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 Oct 25 2013, 6:32pm
        Ok: to start with... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Oct 26 2013, 12:01am
    One of my favorite sequences :-) Kim Send a private message to Kim Oct 25 2013, 11:28pm
        Such a great scene - how did I know you'd love it??? Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Oct 26 2013, 12:37am
    * Rubs hands* Now for Thorin (...oh and Balin too) Dame Ioreth Send a private message to Dame Ioreth Oct 25 2013, 11:32pm
        Wonderful post Dame Ioreth! Kim Send a private message to Kim Oct 25 2013, 11:43pm
            Well, garsh.... Dame Ioreth Send a private message to Dame Ioreth Oct 26 2013, 1:21am
                Again, I have to agree with you Kim Send a private message to Kim Oct 26 2013, 2:05am
                    I so agree with you Kim & Ioreth + spoilers+ elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 Oct 26 2013, 8:09am
                        Not all who wander are lost...some OT is just fine!!! // Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Oct 26 2013, 5:03pm
    Thanks Brethil Noria Send a private message to Noria Oct 25 2013, 11:55pm
        Speaking of Golf! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Oct 26 2013, 12:49am
    My choice too (for best chapter, that is!) Riven Delve Send a private message to Riven Delve Oct 26 2013, 11:41am
        The Bullroarer: what a good catch R-D Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Oct 26 2013, 4:47pm
    Really beautiful moments! Silwen_Peredhil Send a private message to Silwen_Peredhil Oct 28 2013, 8:44pm
        Wow Silwen, what a wonderful post! Kim Send a private message to Kim Oct 28 2013, 9:40pm
            Oh, thank you Kim! Silwen_Peredhil Send a private message to Silwen_Peredhil Oct 30 2013, 4:39pm
        Thanks to YOU Silwen! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Oct 29 2013, 12:45am
            Thank you. :) Silwen_Peredhil Send a private message to Silwen_Peredhil Oct 30 2013, 4:51pm
                Yes, I see you in Rivendell!!!! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Oct 30 2013, 8:27pm
    Another one of my all-time favourite scenes from The Hobbit (I think we all know why) FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Send a private message to FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Oct 29 2013, 6:35pm
        Great responses Morningstar! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Oct 30 2013, 12:44am
            Aww, thank you, Brethil. FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Send a private message to FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Oct 30 2013, 9:46pm
                I agree.. and feel lucky to enjoy it all! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Oct 31 2013, 12:27am
                    Agree 100% with you there. FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Send a private message to FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Oct 31 2013, 5:54pm
    All I really have to add is ... DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Oct 30 2013, 8:32pm
        Great summary Daniel... Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Oct 30 2013, 9:05pm

 
 
 

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