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Boromir as human version of Thorin

Old Pilgrim
Rivendell


Oct 9 2013, 7:54am

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Boromir as human version of Thorin Can't Post

I noticed many similarities between those two characters and now that we can see both of them on the screen, this resemblance is even stronger in my opinion. Let's talk about some facts first:

- Both character are not commoners, but rulers or future rules of their people (Boromir as son of the Steward of Gondor and Thorin as king of Erebor)
- Both are very proud, hold their people in high regard and will do anything in their power to protect them
- We can also say that they are very stubborn and won't let others influence them or even command them
- They have also similar flaw - obsession with regaining glory for their people ( in Boromir's case he is trying to regain the strenght and glory of Gondor who is becoming more and more weaker because of Sauron and in Thorin's case he is trying to reclam Erebor and return both home and glory to his dwarves)
- Their obsession lead them to their doom (through the One Ring in Boromir's case and dragon sickness in Thorin's case)

Of course they have also differences but in the whole I would say that these two characters are very similar and perhaps professor Tolkien has Thorin in mind when he was creating Boromir.


Riven Delve
Grey Havens


Oct 9 2013, 2:58pm

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True, and also [In reply to] Can't Post

they both see their error of their ways and repent before the very end.

If you're interested, check out these two essays on a similar theme:

http://thorinoakenshield.net/...d-boromir-of-gondor/

http://susanmesser7.wordpress.com/...d-boromir-of-gondor/


"Our perennial spiritual and psychological task is to look at things familiar until they become unfamiliar again." --G. K. Chesterton



Eldorion
Rohan


Oct 9 2013, 5:52pm

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I think it's more true of the book than the film... [In reply to] Can't Post

...but obviously, a lot of Thorin's character traits were carried over from the former to the latter.

There are seemingly endless parallels between The Hobbit and The Lord of the Rings. It's a classic example of the "bigger and betterer" style of sequel-making, where you repeat the plot points of the original in a new (more exotic) setting and up the scale. Except that while this usually sucks (see endless movie sequels like the Home Alone franchise), Tolkien managed to pull it off. But it means that there are a lot of similarities between the two.

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Tolkien had Thorin in mind when he created Boromir. There are certainly a lot of similarities between the two, as both you and the ThorinOakenshield.net article mention. But in response to that link, I do think that in the film, Thorin appears to be filling the role that Aragorn has in LOTR. We'll have to wait at least until DOS comes out to be sure though, since then we'll meet the original books Aragorn-analogue, Bard. Although it would be more accurate to say that Aragorn is a Bard-analogue. Tongue



There's a feeling I get, when I look to the West...



Old Pilgrim
Rivendell


Oct 10 2013, 5:43am

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Thanks for those links [In reply to] Can't Post

I will certainly take a look on these essays.

I agree with you Eldorion. The Hobbit is indeed younger brother of the Lord of the Rings and since we have many similarities between them, it wouldn't surprised me if also characters would have some resemblance. After all, if you create a great character like in Thorin in the Hobbit, why not use some of his traits again in the other person and other book. That could work great and it is.

Though I don't see much resemblance between Thorin and Aragorn I believe I know from where came that idea. They are both leaders and have similar role in the Fellowship/ the Company although their personality is very different and cannot be compared like in case of Thorin and Boromir.

 
 

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