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Beorn scale

kjeevah
Bree

Oct 6 2013, 9:53pm

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** NOTE: this is not fan art, the image is just to help discussion **

Based on the scale of the furniture and the size of beorn as a bear when Gandalf is talking to him in the banner, I'm guessing he's probably something around this size? Bigger than your average human, but not quite tall enough for Bilbo to walk through his legs.

Having said that, I'd be surprised if we don't get a direct refernce to it... bilbo scurrying between his legs and some point.

http://s24.postimg.org/cetwomvid/scales.jpg


(This post was edited by kjeevah on Oct 6 2013, 9:58pm)


Glorfindela
Valinor


Oct 6 2013, 10:45pm

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That will make him enormous! Many thanks for posting this – interesting.


kjeevah
Bree

Oct 6 2013, 11:37pm

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Here's a reminder of his scale as a bear

http://cf.badassdigest.com/...es/hobbitscroll3.jpg


kjeevah
Bree

Oct 7 2013, 12:02am

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Also here's Bilbo sat in Beorn's chair.

http://postimg.org/image/cor39ylk1/43080929/

We can't tell a huge amount from that as we do t know what size the chair is compared to Beorn, but what we do know is that the set was built to drawf scale, and compared to the heght of the dwarves on set, that makes the table about 4 foot high at dwarf scale.

Tables are approximately 40% of the height of a human. So that makes Beorn approx 10 feet high, about the same height in human form as in bear form.

If anything, I've actually made him too small in the mockup.


Arandir
Gondor


Oct 7 2013, 8:35am

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Many thanks kjeevah for putting this together. Puts things into perspective Smile

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Fleuz
Lorien


Oct 7 2013, 8:43am

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I wonder how Beorn will be moving [In reply to] Can't Post

His scale seems to become pretty enormous.
So his movements should relate to that fact.

Slower movements and maybe a little more clumsy motion would be cool. Especially in comparison to the others.


Ereinion Nénharma
Lorien

Oct 7 2013, 9:55am

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Why? [In reply to] Can't Post

Are bears, or other large(r) animals, relatively slower and more clumsy than smaller ones? I think not.

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Carne
Tol Eressea

Oct 7 2013, 10:01am

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He's 3 meters tall [In reply to] Can't Post

At least that's what Persbrandt said in some interview a while back.


Fleuz
Lorien


Oct 7 2013, 10:01am

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Well. Not THAT slow of course [In reply to] Can't Post

Just settle adjustments so you can more define the scale.


Fleuz
Lorien


Oct 7 2013, 10:04am

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But in the VideoBlogs it seemed that he's more about 3 1/2 meters at least [In reply to] Can't Post


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At least that's what Persbrandt said in some interview a while back.


Or 11 to 12 feet

Here a pic:
http://www.theonering.com/...house-built-to-scale


(This post was edited by Fleuz on Oct 7 2013, 10:06am)


painjoiker
Grey Havens


Oct 7 2013, 3:24pm

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I hope he's not much bigger than your mockup [In reply to] Can't Post

I don't remember if the book stated his size, but I've always just pictured him like a huge man... not more than 3 meters... more likely less...
So I kind of fear that my mental image will be very different than what will appear in the movie, but now I am prepared! Tongue

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kjeevah
Bree

Oct 7 2013, 4:01pm

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he will be bigger sorry, I had done my maths wrong!

here's now big he should be:

http://imgur.com/uz2jzAC

that's completely in line with the description in the book, of how he was tall enough for bilbo to be able to walk between his legs.


kjeevah
Bree

Oct 7 2013, 4:04pm

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that was the wrong size sorry, he'll be more like this, which also puts him at exactly the size mentioned in hte book.. tall enough for bilbo to be able to walk between his legs without ducking.

http://imgur.com/uz2jzAC


Bernhardina
Rohan


Oct 7 2013, 7:44pm

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He will be huge Shocked

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kjeevah
Bree

Oct 7 2013, 8:04pm

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pretty much identical in scale to other depictions of him too, eg:

http://www.bracegirdle.it/Arda/images/beorn1.jpg
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/...rn_Michael_Hague.jpg
http://tinyurl.com/qzzn2hg


painjoiker
Grey Havens


Oct 7 2013, 8:54pm

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I have never pictured him that tall... [In reply to] Can't Post

He always felt human to me, but if he's that size he's more a giant...
I fear I have to watch this film so many times until I get used to a massive Beorn like that...

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duats
Grey Havens

Oct 7 2013, 10:34pm

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Well [In reply to] Can't Post

To quote Tolkien, Beorn was tall enough that Bilbo could have walked under his legs without his head touching the fringe of Beorn's tunic. In other words, Bilbo is only knee height in comparison to Beorn. If Bilbo is 3'6", that would definitely put Beorn in the 9-10 foot range.


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Pipe Dream
Gondor


Oct 7 2013, 11:34pm

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I pictured him about this size... [In reply to] Can't Post



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