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The Art of Dragon-fire Dodging ... (and Balin has become a real expert it seems) **possible spoilers**


Oct 4 2013, 6:21pm

Post #1 of 12 (832 views)
The Art of Dragon-fire Dodging ... (and Balin has become a real expert it seems) **possible spoilers** Can't Post

After having survived Smaug's initial attack on Erebor, thanks to his loyal companion Thorin (in 'An Unexpected Journey, Balin has certainly learned that Dragon-fire is not a thing to play with. Indeed stone columns have, time and time again, proved the best method to escape the devastating impact of Dragon-fire.

Just two days ago, thanks to the new trailer of 'The Desolation of Smaug', we have learned that, at one point in the film, all the dwarves (including Bilbo) avoid being burnt to a crisp thanks to the clever dodging movement behind yet another set of Erebor stone columns, such as was the case with Thorin pulling Balin out of danger 171 years prior.

No doubt that the rest of the company has been instructed by both Balin and Thorin on this refined Art prior to them entering Erebor and facing the dragon. Copious amounts of practicing would have been needed before the real-deal.

And it is not only in 'The Hobbit', but other films have used this most useful and specialized technique; most recently in 'Harry Potter: The Deathly Hallows Part 2' where a number of goblins take refuge from a blast of hot dragon-fire - which, once again, proves very useful indeed.

It is yet to be seen whether Bard will have to use this particular technique or not, especially considering that Lake-town seems to be made up entirely of wood!Laugh

Please Note: This post is not meant to be sarcastic in any way, but purely out of interest in these cinematography similarities and out of pure anticipation to see this intense scene in 'The Desolation of Smaug'

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Oct 4 2013, 6:31pm

Post #2 of 12 (436 views)
I think dragon breath moves much slower than an explosion or fireball. It's deadly, but easy to dodge // [In reply to] Can't Post


Mad Hatter of Middle-Earth

Oct 4 2013, 8:41pm

Post #3 of 12 (374 views)
Those pics reminded me of Percy Jackson [In reply to] Can't Post

Though in that world, it would be the art of hydra-fire dodging: http://s.mcstatic.com/...museum_hydra.jpg?v=2

All you have to decide is what to do with the time that has been given to you...

Tol Eressea

Oct 4 2013, 9:39pm

Post #4 of 12 (311 views)
Haha! Rewriting the dragonslayer's rulebook. // [In reply to] Can't Post


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Oct 5 2013, 1:07am

Post #5 of 12 (293 views)
Speaking of Smaug's Dragon Breath... [In reply to] Can't Post

I really like the way they've done it: Smaug exhales a ball of extremely hot vapor, which glows blue-white for a split second before it ignites as yellow-orange flame. I finally managed to capture it:

Dragon breath a split second before it ignites

Don't mess with my favorite female elf.


Oct 5 2013, 8:12am

Post #6 of 12 (208 views)
He must get a really sore throat. Poor Smaugy. / [In reply to] Can't Post


Pipe Dream

Oct 5 2013, 10:35am

Post #7 of 12 (212 views)
You forgot the most important one... [In reply to] Can't Post

..."The Running High Dive".

I sure hope the Running River is down below. Wink This also means that this scene deviates from the book yet again if Thorin is running away from Smaug after returning to Lonely Mountain.

"There is a long road yet," said Gandalf. "But it is the last road," said Bilbo.


Oct 5 2013, 2:10pm

Post #8 of 12 (199 views)
The Way Bomby sees this played out? [In reply to] Can't Post

Bilbo steals the Cup
Returns to the Dwarves
They are Happy.

Sends him down again.
He has his Riddle Game with Smaug
Visible at Times... Invisible at others.

This could be a real Cat & Mouse Faceoff?
Now you see me, Now you don't?

Smaug says "Step into the Light"
Blasts Bilbo but he escapes
just inside the Lower Door.

Smaug smells the scent of Dwarves?
since they need to leave the Door open.

Smaug Flys around to that side of the Mountain.
Smashs the Hidden Door... Sealing them in.

They venture down.
Smaug comes Back knowing they are sealed inside.
They are searching for the Front Door.

Smaug Fires and thinks
They are ALL Dead...
So, Heads for Laketown, for
on those Men.

The Dwarves are all Standing at the Front Door,
watching him LEAVE.

We will find OUT
if Bomby is right
in December...


Oct 6 2013, 6:49pm

Post #9 of 12 (108 views)
Great catch! [In reply to] Can't Post

I forgot that shot ... this must be the ultimate form of Dodging currently available. Fantastic! Cool

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Oct 6 2013, 6:50pm

Post #10 of 12 (108 views)
Yep noticed that too [In reply to] Can't Post

It really makes it that more menacing and scary - plus much cooler! (no pun intended of courseLaugh)

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Oct 6 2013, 6:51pm

Post #11 of 12 (106 views)
Well, that's another example me thinks [In reply to] Can't Post

True it's a hydra, but the art of fire-dodging is clearly there too!Wink Thanks for sharing!

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Oct 6 2013, 7:25pm

Post #12 of 12 (107 views)
Wow, that is really cool [In reply to] Can't Post

Yet another example of the level of detail Weta goes to in these movies!


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