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You're quite right.


Sep 28 2013, 12:13am

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You're quite right. [In reply to] Can't Post

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for some reason, its seems more C.S. Lewis style...

I even thought that as I was writing it - shades of that annoying fawn thing scurrying through the woods etc. And I left CS Lewis behind at about 10 years old when I realised that it was just crude religious ideology bolted on to cute animals.

Anyway, the main reason my idea is stupid (and I did say I'd gone a bit mad) was that Tolkien's Middle Earth doesn't represent our actual pre-history; it's supposed to be a mythologised version of our ancient history, such that the Saxons or the Celts might have written if the Normans hadn't turned up and ruined everything.

So Morgoth might have been some half-remembered foreign invader that seemed magically powerful, and the Maia perhaps the Greek gods, heard about second-hand via the friendly advanced Greeks/Phoenicians (Numenoreans?) that brought learning and technology to the early British and helped in some of their battles. And Sauron would be the lieutenant of lesser power that remained a threat after the main enemy was defeated. And all this great history filtered through the local tales of a small farming community, trying to fit all the pieces together when some of them found themselves involved in outside matters and returned to their village to tell about it. And of course everyone still being fascinated by tales of the previous inhabitants, now either extinct or reduced to hiding in remote forests and hills - now turned, by Chinese whispers, into elves or perhaps dwarves - the result of tales passed down for generations from those that had once encountered these people in the distant past.

So of course Tolkien wouldn't have found a book dropped by a hobbit; he would have painstakingly pieced together the myths from the second-hand accounts of ancient historians who found the writings and translated or collated the texts. Or through remnants and clues scattered through the more recent writings of the people who came after the events that are being recounted.

Which is much more interesting, scholarly and a lot less CS Lewis.

"Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear."

Subject User Time
The Final Scene. Bumblingidiot Send a private message to Bumblingidiot Sep 27 2013, 9:22pm
    That sounds like a really lovely idea! Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Sep 27 2013, 10:03pm
    I said the same about Star Wars Barrow-Wight Send a private message to Barrow-Wight Sep 27 2013, 10:16pm
    I would love to see Frodo and Bilbo on the ship sycorax82 Send a private message to sycorax82 Sep 27 2013, 10:19pm
    No. Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Sep 27 2013, 10:27pm
        Yeah Faleel Send a private message to Faleel Sep 27 2013, 10:36pm
            You're quite right. Bumblingidiot Send a private message to Bumblingidiot Sep 28 2013, 12:13am
                No No no Blkcpt Send a private message to Blkcpt Sep 28 2013, 12:21am
                    I see your point. Bumblingidiot Send a private message to Bumblingidiot Sep 28 2013, 12:50am
                I Faleel Send a private message to Faleel Sep 28 2013, 3:35am
        Yeah but no but yeah but no.. Bumblingidiot Send a private message to Bumblingidiot Sep 27 2013, 11:42pm
    No no no! FrodoEyes Send a private message to FrodoEyes Sep 28 2013, 9:34pm


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