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Yeah but no but yeah but no..


Sep 27 2013, 11:42pm

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It is a very interesting idea... but one I cannot disagree with more ;)

The whole pre-history thing is something Tolkien said and wanted, yes... but it remains a rather ambigious describtion of his work. Nothing that would make much sense in the movie's context. Causing much more confusion, and no depth at all.

More than that, I would rather not see more bad blood between the filmmakers and the Tolkien family (and some Tolkien fans who could never warm themselves for the adaptions). Seeing the professor himself in an interpretation of their father/grandfather/idol's work they already are displeased with (to use a nice word) would probably not be seen as hommage, tribute or respect but as tasteless or insulting.

It also does not fit Tolkien, I think, to put him - as a person - that much into the spotlight of his stories.

Yes well, I kind of agree with everything you said, except that I think Tolkien would have been a lot more impressed with these films than Christopher Tolkien will allow himself to be - JRR did after all engage with some of the worst film adaptors in history, whilst remaining polite and not engaging hitmen to 'take care' of them (which is what I'd have been tempted to do, given what they were proposing to do to his stories).

PJ and co are so far removed from the Hollywood that Tolkien knew, that I think he would have been pleasantly surprised at the amount of reverence that was given to his stories by the films. I also think he would have been enchanted by many of the visuals in the films. And he was open to and encouraging of people extending his mythos and making their own stories within it. What he did object to was some of the hippie dungeons and dragons culture that latched onto his work.

Fortunately, the director we ended up with avoided the blockbuster treatment by going with a great ensemble cast that included some of the best theatre (ie real) actors in the world, and a committed crew. Anyway, I've just realised why my whole idea is flawed, so JRR is back on the cutting room floor and I've been fired as scriptwriter.

"Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear."

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The Final Scene. Bumblingidiot Send a private message to Bumblingidiot Sep 27 2013, 9:22pm
    That sounds like a really lovely idea! Glorfindela Send a private message to Glorfindela Sep 27 2013, 10:03pm
    I said the same about Star Wars Barrow-Wight Send a private message to Barrow-Wight Sep 27 2013, 10:16pm
    I would love to see Frodo and Bilbo on the ship sycorax82 Send a private message to sycorax82 Sep 27 2013, 10:19pm
    No. Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Sep 27 2013, 10:27pm
        Yeah Faleel Send a private message to Faleel Sep 27 2013, 10:36pm
            You're quite right. Bumblingidiot Send a private message to Bumblingidiot Sep 28 2013, 12:13am
                No No no Blkcpt Send a private message to Blkcpt Sep 28 2013, 12:21am
                    I see your point. Bumblingidiot Send a private message to Bumblingidiot Sep 28 2013, 12:50am
                I Faleel Send a private message to Faleel Sep 28 2013, 3:35am
        Yeah but no but yeah but no.. Bumblingidiot Send a private message to Bumblingidiot Sep 27 2013, 11:42pm
    No no no! FrodoEyes Send a private message to FrodoEyes Sep 28 2013, 9:34pm


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