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I'm a movie firster

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Sep 26 2013, 8:45pm


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1) What was your reaction when you first saw the beacon being lit? Were you as relieved/pleased as Gandalf that Pippin had succeeded?

My reaction was general worriment for Pippin until I saw him underneath the beacon and climbing on the rock safe and sound. I think the filmmakers did this on purpose, just for fun, to make the audience jump. First you see Pippin climbing up the beacon and it takes him a little while, then the fire starts and Pippin realizes he must get down quickly (I love the look on Billy Boyd's face in this scene), it cuts to the guards of the beacon seeing the flames and then goes to the shot seen in the screencap you provided where the whole beacon is blazing with light. So its kind of a trick of the camera; if they hadn't cut to the guards of the beacons, there would not have been enough time for Pippin to climb down the beacon before it burst into flames. The music also helps add to this effect of a need to hurry.

2) This is the first sign in the films of any attempt for aid from Gondor. Denethor’s actions have been passive about the war from Sauron so far (unlike in the book). Do you like this deviation? Do you think it gave Gandalf and Pippin’s arrival more of a purpose?


Like I said, I'm a movie firster, so not only was I anxious about Pippin being caught on fire at the edge of a cliff, but I also didn't realize when things matched up with the book or not. I've read the book once and sporadically and quite honestly I don't remember a lot of the details. When re-watching ROTK I noticed that the reasons for going to Gondor were different, but I don't remember much about the beacons lighting scene and Denethor's attitude. I can say this however (and forgive me if I am forgetting the book again but I think this is a movie difference), I think it is kind of funny and odd to think that Théoden wasn't convinced by Gandalf to go to war, until Gandalf rode to Gondor and called for his help from there. Seriously, Théoden, what's the difference? "Wait, you mean Gandalf had those beacons lit by that fool of a Took just to get me here, and this was all against the will of Gondor?"....Yep. "Mutter mumble...darn wizard, and he says he's not a conjurer of cheap tricks..."

Look at the pictures of Gandalf and Denethor.

3) What do you think about the lighting in each picture?


It's great! The white walls of Minas Tirith are awesome, and the color of white and its brightness can signify hope and light in the lighting of the beacons. It makes sense then, that Denethor, in his hard heartedness and misery, would be going back into the darkness of his own despair despite the hope that is offered to him.

4) What do you think about the facial expressions?

Gandalf looks overjoyed. Later in the film he experiences his own hope being shaken by fear, but this still puts a huge smile on his face, so he at least has some hope! Denethor looks like he should. He always looks dismal, why wouldn't he look disgusted now when things are getting worse for him? I do feel bad for him though. If only he had thrown himself out of his misery while he could have. I know this is probably beating a dead horse, but I do wish his Palantir had been featured. This may not be relevant to the screencaps but I feel it effects all of his emotions, they would make so much more sense with the Palantir being the cause of his crazed anxiety and preoccupation. Oh well! What's in the film is good too.

5) Any other thoughts/comments about this scene?


Just that the music is awesome. Especially during the actual sequence that's coming up next, but even here, I like the playfulness of it all. Howard Shore always comes up with something great.


"I've found it is the small things, everyday deeds of ordinary folk, that keeps the darkness at bay. Simple acts of kindness and love. Why Bilbo Baggins? Perhaps it is because I’m afraid, and he gives me courage.” - Gandalf the Grey.

"Do not be afraid Mithrandir, if ever you should need my help, I will come." - Lady Galadriel.

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SCOD: The Beacon is Lit FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Send a private message to FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Sep 26 2013, 6:24pm
    Nice contrasts in this Erewen Send a private message to Erewen Sep 26 2013, 7:20pm
        I cheered in my head too. FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Send a private message to FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Sep 28 2013, 5:08pm
    I'm a movie firster burgahobbit Send a private message to burgahobbit Sep 26 2013, 8:45pm
        Excellent answers! FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Send a private message to FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Sep 28 2013, 5:10pm
    A moment where I couldn't care less that it deviates from the books FlyingSerkis Send a private message to FlyingSerkis Sep 26 2013, 10:52pm
        Maybe the palantir was in his cloak somewhere... FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Send a private message to FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Sep 28 2013, 5:14pm
        Howard Shore's "lower level" themes still beat out any other soundtrack Misty Mountain Hop Send a private message to Misty Mountain Hop Oct 10 2013, 8:17pm
    I LOVE this scene!!! Werde Spinner Send a private message to Werde Spinner Sep 27 2013, 1:04am
        I LOVE this scene too. FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Send a private message to FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Sep 28 2013, 5:22pm
            Field of Celebrant FlyingSerkis Send a private message to FlyingSerkis Sep 28 2013, 5:28pm
                I remember feeling that way too. FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Send a private message to FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Sep 28 2013, 5:33pm
    Denethor Na Vedui Send a private message to Na Vedui Sep 27 2013, 1:38am
    "Now all of Rohan knows you're here." "Perfect." Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Sep 27 2013, 2:20pm
        Your post reminded me of that "Éomer's Bootcamp" on YouTube... FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Send a private message to FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Sep 28 2013, 5:25pm
    One scowl to rule them all. Nuradar Send a private message to Nuradar Sep 27 2013, 6:11pm
        Agree with you there. FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Send a private message to FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Sep 28 2013, 5:27pm
    Thoughts flameofudun Send a private message to flameofudun Sep 28 2013, 12:14am
        It's Halifirien Na Vedui Send a private message to Na Vedui Sep 28 2013, 4:21pm
        Haha, indeed. FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Send a private message to FaramirAndEowynMorningStar Sep 28 2013, 5:30pm

 
 
 

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