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Geeky observation of mine, and kudos to the actors for sticking to canon when PJ did not :D

Cirashala
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Sep 26 2013, 5:47am


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Geeky observation of mine, and kudos to the actors for sticking to canon when PJ did not :D Can't Post

You can tell he is the youngest, because, whether or not PJ&co decided Ori was, the actors (or at least most of them) read the book, and it was very obvious that they knew Kili is the real youngest Smile

When the Great Goblin points to Ori, and says, "Start with the youngest!" And Thorin says, "Wait!" and steps forward.....

ONLY Dori and Nori stand between Ori to protect him! And it makes sense-he is their younger brother, and the GG pointed to him.

The rest of the company, however, surrounded not Ori, but rather Kili Cool

In this screencap:

http://screencapped.net/movie/lotr/displayimage.php?album=154&pid=500516#top_display_media


You can clearly see that most of the dwarves have surrounded Kili, NOT Ori (they are practically glued to Kili), and in the front, you see Bofur standing slightly in front of him. The one who finishes off the "surround" is Thorin-directly in front of his nephew, not the threatened member of the company.

This tells me that the cast, regardless of the possible change in canon PJ&co made with regards to Ori being the "youngest", knows that Tolkien himself writes Kili to be the youngest as per his birth year in the appendices (being 5 years younger than his brother, Fili) though in the novel itself Thorin says that "Fili is the youngest and has the best eyesight"-The Hobbit

But, then again, if the stone giants scene is any indication....we all know that Thorin is rather talented at mixing his nephews up Tongue

So, this supports my theory that the GG is simply.....just an idiot Cool


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Geeky observation of mine, and kudos to the actors for sticking to canon when PJ did not :D Cirashala Send a private message to Cirashala Sep 26 2013, 5:47am
    The fact that PJ has the licene to Tolkien's work, does that not mean what he writes is also canonical? emre43 Send a private message to emre43 Sep 26 2013, 6:15am
        some of the canon vs non-canon debates don't bother me Cirashala Send a private message to Cirashala Sep 26 2013, 6:19am
        No...and yes. Silverlode Send a private message to Silverlode Sep 26 2013, 6:20am
        No. Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Sep 26 2013, 1:39pm
    Very nice screens Old Pilgrim Send a private message to Old Pilgrim Sep 26 2013, 6:18am
    I'm not really sure it comes across like that when you watch the scene. DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Sep 26 2013, 7:11am
    Is it idiotic? morro91 Send a private message to morro91 Sep 26 2013, 8:11am
        maybe idiotic isn't the right word Cirashala Send a private message to Cirashala Sep 26 2013, 5:48pm
            About the beards... Eye's on Guard Send a private message to Eye's on Guard Sep 26 2013, 10:43pm
            I saw a suggested explanation somewhere Werde Spinner Send a private message to Werde Spinner Sep 27 2013, 1:18am
                yes!!! Cirashala Send a private message to Cirashala Sep 27 2013, 1:28am
                    I've wondered that, too Werde Spinner Send a private message to Werde Spinner Sep 27 2013, 1:57am
                        Yes, I agree with MORE Fili! Riven Delve Send a private message to Riven Delve Sep 27 2013, 2:47am
                            More great screencapping R-D! Brethil Send a private message to Brethil Sep 27 2013, 3:17am
                            Well, I'm glad I'm not the only one a mite confused. Werde Spinner Send a private message to Werde Spinner Sep 27 2013, 2:43pm
    It was the Great Goblin who did not follow canon... DwellerInDale Send a private message to DwellerInDale Sep 26 2013, 11:02am
    I interpreted the scene this way: Riven Delve Send a private message to Riven Delve Sep 26 2013, 11:35am
        Nice one burgahobbit Send a private message to burgahobbit Sep 26 2013, 1:27pm
        a subject marillaraina Send a private message to marillaraina Sep 26 2013, 1:47pm
            me too Cirashala Send a private message to Cirashala Sep 26 2013, 5:55pm
                same subject marillaraina Send a private message to marillaraina Sep 26 2013, 7:34pm
        Exactly Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Sep 26 2013, 2:06pm
            a subject marillaraina Send a private message to marillaraina Sep 26 2013, 4:35pm
                Thanks for the correction! Darkstone Send a private message to Darkstone Sep 26 2013, 5:45pm
        LOL! Cirashala Send a private message to Cirashala Sep 26 2013, 5:49pm
    Ori is not the youngest LordotRings93 Send a private message to LordotRings93 Sep 26 2013, 1:21pm

 
 
 

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