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JK Rowling to pen Harry Potter spin-off film
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Welsh hero
Gondor


Sep 12 2013, 4:20pm

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JK Rowling to pen Harry Potter spin-off film Can't Post

JK Rowling is to make her screenwriting debut in a new Harry Potter-themed film series, Warner Bros has announced.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/...inment-arts-24067557

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Rohan


Sep 12 2013, 4:33pm

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Predictable [In reply to] Can't Post

It was a matter of time when WB was going to milk Potterverse and in the wake of Marvel domination (and WB inability to launch Justice league) it's really not surrpising. well, I love that universe so fingers crossed it's a great movie series a sopposed to a cash grab.

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Misto
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Sep 12 2013, 4:40pm

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My goodness [In reply to] Can't Post

Is she ever going to stop?
I really like Harry Potter, I truly do. But for god's sake let it rest! I suppose it's kind of appealing to keep cashing in on what is successful, but it's not necessarily much of a benefit to the story and its universe. That makes me kind of glad that Tolkien is dead. Crazy


JWPlatt
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Sep 12 2013, 4:44pm

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Just The First Film [In reply to] Can't Post

To clarify, "The first movie in 'Fantastic Beasts and Where to Find Them' series will be written by Rowling herself," which says to me that other people will write for any movies thereafter. Quality or fan interest may suffer because if it's not written by her, it may be considered as "fan fiction."

Rowling saying the film is not a prequel or sequel reminds me a lot of the whole Prometheus debacle, but it this case it is completely plausible where the whole thing with Prometheus was semantics and hair-splitting.

I'm hoping Rawling, who has to me seemed less about the money and more about the entertainment, love for the material, and self-made success, intends to set up a portion of the proceeds for charity. Warner Brothers, on the other hand, is all about business with all other considerations secondary. For them, it's simply a reasonably guaranteed windfall to be exploited for shareholders.


Welsh hero
Gondor


Sep 12 2013, 4:50pm

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"Is she ever going to stop?" well that's a no [In reply to] Can't Post

She's always said when she finished, that while she's done with the series right now, if she can think of a good story she's look in to that world again.

Seems like she's found that story.

She's also not going to stop writing in general, She enjoys writing.

Plus she's always said that that any future instalments in the potter world will be done for charity, so I guess she'd donate some of her pay to a charity

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Rohan


Sep 12 2013, 4:51pm

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More I think about it more I like it [In reply to] Can't Post

One would expect them to milk fanfiction-favorite Marauders prequel or Harry kids sequel but this is really out of the left field. So I'm with those who believe in Rowling's integrity. She's really challenging herself.

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JWPlatt
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Sep 12 2013, 4:52pm

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Is she ever going to stop?
I really like Harry Potter, I truly do. But for god's sake let it rest! I suppose it's kind of appealing to keep cashing in on what is successful, but it's not necessarily much of a benefit to the story and its universe. That makes me kind of glad that Tolkien is dead. Crazy

She did stop. As promised, Happy Potter was seven volumes and nothing more. A cash grab on her behalf would have extended Harry Potter past that and it surely would have sold - even if she just collected royalties and let lesser talent write and produce it.

The sentiment about Tolkien seems a heavy price to pay for no more Potter.

I suspect Rowling will have similar sensibilities as you and will not try to rip off Potter just to make money. I think she'll try to make it its own story without even a ring to link the two. There's nothing wrong with a new story in an existing universe.


Compa_Mighty
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Sep 12 2013, 5:02pm

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Feeling grateful about the Tolkien Estate hard line, now? [In reply to] Can't Post

Inevitable, but highly questionable. I don't know, it doesn't sound bad for Star Wars and it shouldn't be bad for Potter, but it can go either way.

Somehow, Mr Christopher Tolkien's stance toward adaptations, makes more sense now.

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Darkstone
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Sep 12 2013, 5:12pm

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A sidequel then. [In reply to] Can't Post

I do look forward to exploring more of the Wizard World.

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Rohan


Sep 12 2013, 5:16pm

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IMO, Chris Tolkien is robbing cinema of potentially great films [In reply to] Can't Post

Stuff in Sil and Unfinished Tales and HoME is dry but has really good skeleton around which they could flesh out characters who are very broadly written in those stories. Epic scale would be unprescended. And they could hire talented directors who are ripe for a beaking into big budget movies. Something that seems to be the idea behind Star Wars spin-offs and that already is materializing with Marvel properties.

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Darkstone
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Sep 12 2013, 5:57pm

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How can you rob something you yourself own? [In reply to] Can't Post


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Stuff in Sil and Unfinished Tales and HoME is dry but has really good skeleton around which they could flesh out characters who are very broadly written in those stories.


In other words, SINO. (Sil In Name Only)

Hollywood doesn't have to have the film rights to the Sil, UT, or HoME to make brilliant fantasy films in an unprecedentedly epic scale.

The fact that they seem to have trouble doing so kinda points to CT's wisdom.

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JWPlatt
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Sep 12 2013, 5:58pm

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Wise Examples [In reply to] Can't Post


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Stuff in Sil and Unfinished Tales and HoME is dry but has really good skeleton around which they could flesh out characters who are very broadly written in those stories. Epic scale would be unprescended. And they could hire talented directors who are ripe for a beaking into big budget movies. Something that seems to be the idea behind Star Wars spin-offs and that already is materializing with Marvel properties.


Putting Star Wars and Marvel up as a positive examples of how to exploit your franchise would send Christopher to the grave with a simultaneous stroke and massive heart attack.


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Rohan


Sep 12 2013, 6:01pm

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Well, it isn't like Christopher has a positive opinion on LOTR movies either [In reply to] Can't Post

so whatever example I use would give him ulcers. Tongue

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Welsh hero
Gondor


Sep 12 2013, 6:34pm

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It's set 70 years before Potter (so 1920s or 1930s. depends on what timeline they follow) [In reply to] Can't Post

I say think the Marvel Cinematic Universe more than anything,

think of this film like Captain America, set before Iron man, but not being any kind of quel to Iron Man

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Darkstone
Immortal


Sep 12 2013, 6:47pm

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Or like Soldier (1998) was to Bladerunner (1982). [In reply to] Can't Post

For example listen for a reference to "Tannhauser Gate" and look for a Spinner in the junkyard.

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In The Green Dragon two ales could buy
And drank the one less filling I
And that has made all the difference.
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Rohan


Sep 12 2013, 7:02pm

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Yep, this won't ruin Potter [In reply to] Can't Post

in case it goes south because it's the same universe but different characters.

Good job WB, really caught people by surprise with this one. There wasn't even a murmur about this and with all scoopers chasing DC news, it flew under the radar completely.

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Sep 12 2013, 7:37pm

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Having read the article, [In reply to] Can't Post

I think it's a fantastic idea. I'm interested to see how she builds a story about Newt Scamander.


Welsh hero
Gondor


Sep 12 2013, 9:32pm

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I also hope he travels a lot in the film [In reply to] Can't Post

In the books, (allthough he's not featured, just mentioned) it says he's a traveling naturalist. We could see a much larger part of the wizarding world. So far we've only seen the UK Wizarding world.

Tongue

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RosieLass
Valinor


Sep 12 2013, 10:11pm

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Or, alternatively, he's protecting cinema from potentially crappy films. [In reply to] Can't Post

Depending on your point of view.

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Darkstone
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Sep 12 2013, 10:26pm

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Given the odds... [In reply to] Can't Post

...that's the way to bet.

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I shall be telling this with a sigh
Sometime hours and hours hence:
In The Green Dragon two ales could buy
And drank the one less filling I
And that has made all the difference.
- The Ale Less Filling, by Robert Frostymug


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Rohan


Sep 13 2013, 12:45am

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There's always a risk [In reply to] Can't Post

they could be LOTR, they could be The Lovely Bones. But the fear of Lovely Bones shouldn't prevent LOTR form happening, so to speak.

Besides, bad movie adaptations don't ruin books. If anything, book cred rises because people go "books are so much better". So C-Tol has nothing to be afraid of nor he is at loss if he sells movie rights. Books are timeless and if they spawn a timeless movies great. if not, books remain timeless, crap movie will be forgotten and won't sour book experience.

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Tauriel saved us from Itaril. Never forget.



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Rohan


Sep 13 2013, 12:49am

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He starts from New York [In reply to] Can't Post

So I guess they could definitely internationalize the appeal by having him travel around the globe. I know that Rowling is big on supporting local (British) talent, hence the clause that all Potter cast members must be British citizens, but that could change with this series. In fact, I hope we meet some creatures inspired by foreign lore and some international landscapes.

Has fan-casting already begin?

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Morthoron
Gondor


Sep 13 2013, 1:38am

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The title of the first spin-off film will be "Harvey Potter"... [In reply to] Can't Post

In which the adult Harry's best friend is a pooka named Harvey, who is described as a six-foot, three-and-one-half-inch tall invisible rabbit. Much wacky humor ensues when Harry's wife Ginny and his former friends Ron and Hermione try to have him institutionalized.

The estate of playwright Mary Chase will then sue JK Rowling for plagiarism

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arithmancer
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Sep 13 2013, 12:34pm

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Doubtful... [In reply to] Can't Post

...because invisible 6'3" rabbits may well exist in the Potterverse. Or people may transform into them and wear Harry's cloak. Or some variant thereof!


Elwen
Lorien


Sep 13 2013, 3:27pm

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I'm very excited for it. [In reply to] Can't Post

The extra little books that Rowling has put out (Beedle the Bard, Fantastic Beasts, Quidditch Through the Ages) have all be entertaining and rich with detail.

I did like the bit about her not being comfortable with someone else writing the stories. One wonders if the Professor were still with us if he would have been able to collaborate on the LotR and Hobbit films. That would have been incredible!

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