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No, however Sauron almost surely would not be the first wave of confrontation (and, yes please to Glorfindel in the full assault . .. SURVIVING in a hero Elf role!)

AinurOlorin
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Sep 12 2013, 4:09am


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No, however Sauron almost surely would not be the first wave of confrontation (and, yes please to Glorfindel in the full assault . .. SURVIVING in a hero Elf role!) [In reply to] Can't Post

Sauron (as happened with Radagast) would/should only show up when the greatest of his minions have been defeated. The Witch-King was lying in ambush to send Radagast back into The World of Spirits, but the old Wizard was ready for him, and put staff in his a. . . in his butt! Then Sauron revealed himself and gave a chase of sorts.

Gandalf is coming to confirm Sauron's presence. Sauron does not want to reveal it. Minions would be the order of the day. Starting with common things like orcs. If they fail, Nazgul (and here is where I am hoping for a REAL display of fire, light and power) would try to detain him. Only when all of these fail would Sauron reveal himself, with the intent of making certain that his enemy does not get back to expose him and his plans. . . and Gandalf, knowing when to fold em and when to walk away, might then escape with Radagast, who may have seen the conflagration of combat from a ways off, just as Aragorn and Frodo see the signs of the battle between Wizard and Wraith Lords in the novel.

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Do you think Gandalf can out magic Sauron? His minions to be sure, but Sauron?

However if you add Elrond Galadriel Saruman Radaghast and Glorfindel, well maybe as a group they can ...


"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."

(This post was edited by AinurOlorin on Sep 12 2013, 4:10am)

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Certainly Gandalf needs to display power-magic in Dol Guldur. But how? Let the books be your guide, filmcrew! AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 10 2013, 11:28pm
    Completely agree Arandir Send a private message to Arandir Sep 11 2013, 6:59am
        That is a fear, but I certainly hope they won't make that mistake. Two things play in favour of them doing the right thing AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 11 2013, 7:53am
            Plus, burgahobbit Send a private message to burgahobbit Sep 11 2013, 11:00am
                Definitely, Burgahobbit and Sycoraxa82. I thought it fitting and proper that Radagast AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 11 2013, 10:15pm
        # 2 of this list completely nails it on EVERY level. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 11 2013, 8:01am
            Very very true ... Arandir Send a private message to Arandir Sep 11 2013, 3:48pm
                Fingers crossed for it, Arandir my friend. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 11 2013, 10:16pm
        I wish they would reshoot the Witch-King confrontation sycorax82 Send a private message to sycorax82 Sep 11 2013, 6:22pm
    i still missed how in the book when Gandalf showed up in... MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Sep 12 2013, 3:18am
        Sauron Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff Sep 12 2013, 3:48am
            No, however Sauron almost surely would not be the first wave of confrontation (and, yes please to Glorfindel in the full assault . .. SURVIVING in a hero Elf role!) AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 12 2013, 4:09am
                ^ Liking all of this, AO. cats16 Send a private message to cats16 Sep 12 2013, 4:16am
        I really missed that too, HOWEVER, after the how many of Gandalf's displays of power were either AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 12 2013, 4:01am
            agreed MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Sep 12 2013, 4:13am
                orcrist did glow Cirashala Send a private message to Cirashala Sep 12 2013, 5:10pm
                    nope MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Sep 13 2013, 3:38am
                        There were a few points where Glamdring glowed VERY briefly, as it was swung. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 13 2013, 10:20pm
    Hard to tell Old Pilgrim Send a private message to Old Pilgrim Sep 12 2013, 5:28am
        It is the books being quoted. Yes he encouraged, with wisdom, and his kind Spirit, and was aided by the healing power of The Red Ring, but make no mistake AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 12 2013, 7:46am
            Yes but Hamfast Gamgee Send a private message to Hamfast Gamgee Sep 12 2013, 12:00pm
            True, but we are talking about Dol Guldur here Old Pilgrim Send a private message to Old Pilgrim Sep 12 2013, 12:56pm
                It is a trap. And as he said on Caradhras when the wargs came, ere another display of power, "Need we wait till morning? The Hunt is up!" AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 13 2013, 9:36pm
                    Hopefully not... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Sep 14 2013, 12:35am
                        Guard your heart, Salmacis. I hope as you do, but AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 14 2013, 3:10am
                        maiar vs istari Cirashala Send a private message to Cirashala Sep 14 2013, 3:01pm
                            The Istari are Maia Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Sep 14 2013, 9:05pm
                            What Otaku said... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Sep 15 2013, 3:09am
                            Otaku and Salmacis have nailed it. To give greater specifity, Olorin and Curumo were the highest of the Maiar who were sent and became known as AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 15 2013, 5:28pm
    If we are going by the books Hamfast Gamgee Send a private message to Hamfast Gamgee Sep 12 2013, 11:56am
        True... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Sep 12 2013, 2:43pm

 
 
 

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