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It is plausible that, if the encounter was decades back, not long after Gandalf had searched Moria,

AinurOlorin
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Sep 11 2013, 10:25pm


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It is plausible that, if the encounter was decades back, not long after Gandalf had searched Moria, [In reply to] Can't Post

and perhaps been unable to save Thrain due to the presence of The Balrog, but learns that Thrain might be taken to Dol Guldur.. . . he could go there and Sauron, being less potent at the time, might have fled and hid himself (taking much of the evil taint with him) as he did when Gandalf first ventured to Dol Guldur nearly a thousand years before.

OR, Gandalf could have driven both orcs AND some unidentified evil Sorcerous power from Dol Guldur. There are several workable possibilities, the filmakers just have to make sure that they pick ONE of them and stick to it consistently, in a way that at no point ceases to make sense.

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Unless it was a while ago since Gandalf met Thrain in Dol Guldur and chased off whatever Orcs were there, Gandalf would have known that something was very wrong with that place.. like a Necromencer aka Sauron lurking around. Unless of course Sauron moved in right after Gandalf leaves.

We know Bolg is the Dol Guldur torturer, so he probably tortures Thrain for information. I still think Gandalf meets Thrain outside of Dol Guldur, and will see him again (as a crazy captured dwarf) when he visits Dol Guldur in DOS. That's my bet at least.


"Hear me, hounds of Sauron, Gandalf is here! Fly if you value your foul skins, I will shrivel you from tail to snout if you step within this circle!"

"Do not be to eager to deal out death in judgement. Even the very wise cannot see all ends."

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Gandalf getting the map and keys in Dol Guldur has been confirmed? Glum Send a private message to Glum Sep 10 2013, 9:56pm
    Hello! I was the one who posted that flameofudun Send a private message to flameofudun Sep 10 2013, 10:36pm
        Thanx :) Glum Send a private message to Glum Sep 11 2013, 9:10pm
    The only real alternative would have been Moria Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Sep 11 2013, 3:22pm
    Makes no sense to me... nhui06 Send a private message to nhui06 Sep 11 2013, 4:13pm
        Hmm. vexx801 Send a private message to vexx801 Sep 11 2013, 6:47pm
            I use to think that, but nhui06 Send a private message to nhui06 Sep 11 2013, 6:54pm
                Good idea burgahobbit Send a private message to burgahobbit Sep 11 2013, 7:08pm
                    Although.... elaen32 Send a private message to elaen32 Sep 11 2013, 7:39pm
                        Yeah you're right burgahobbit Send a private message to burgahobbit Sep 11 2013, 8:09pm
                            Sylvester McCoy stated how flameofudun Send a private message to flameofudun Sep 11 2013, 8:57pm
                                Awesome! burgahobbit Send a private message to burgahobbit Sep 11 2013, 11:27pm
                                Where did you find this info and when? Greypilgrim Send a private message to Greypilgrim Sep 12 2013, 3:48pm
                                    It was a while back I believe flameofudun Send a private message to flameofudun Sep 12 2013, 7:57pm
                                        It was at Armageddon Expo... Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Sep 12 2013, 8:02pm
                                            What McCoy actually says Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Sep 12 2013, 8:13pm
                                                Yes. I apologize. I had only seen the video once at the Time flameofudun Send a private message to flameofudun Sep 12 2013, 8:26pm
                                                    Not a problem Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Sep 12 2013, 8:34pm
                                    OK here is a link flameofudun Send a private message to flameofudun Sep 12 2013, 8:22pm
                    Well said. I didn't read the reaction to Radagast's words as shock, rather as AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 11 2013, 10:27pm
                        thats a good point... MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Sep 12 2013, 3:23am
                It is plausible that, if the encounter was decades back, not long after Gandalf had searched Moria, AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 11 2013, 10:25pm

 
 
 

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