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Necromencer was boring in the books

nhui06
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Sep 10 2013, 5:48pm


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If I remember correctly, the Necromencer was not described in the book...only that Gandalf had to deal with him. Pretty lazy writing if you ask me. I am glad PJ is expanding on the Necromencer's role. I called it from the beginning that Azog was tied to the Necromencer and Dol Guldur. Not sure if Azog was raised from the dead, but he probably owes the Necromencer something, and so now he is his servant. Azog is hunting Thorin for both revenge, and to stop them from reaching Smaug (under the orders of the Necromencer).

In regards to who else knows about the quest, that will be Thrain. Thrain gave the map and key to Gandalf before he met whatever caused him to disappear. Thrain knows that Thorin will one day go back and claim Erebor. One can assume Bolg (the torturerer) got the information out of Thrain (maybe the Necromencer was also looking for the map and key), and it is Azog's job to find Thorin and the key/map.

In regards to Smaug and Sauron, Gandalf's concern was established in the Appendix and in the Unfinished Tales that the Necromencer may bring Smaug to his side, hence why he too wanted to go on the Quest for Erebor.

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Analysing the role of The Necromancer in The Hobbit News from Bree Send a private message to News from Bree Sep 10 2013, 9:36am
    Nice!! morro91 Send a private message to morro91 Sep 10 2013, 2:53pm
        The book Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Sep 10 2013, 3:15pm
    Nice article Remus Send a private message to Remus Sep 10 2013, 4:36pm
        I'm interested to see... Long Hammer Send a private message to Long Hammer Sep 10 2013, 5:11pm
            Necromencer was boring in the books nhui06 Send a private message to nhui06 Sep 10 2013, 5:48pm
                Thrain disappeared way before Long Hammer Send a private message to Long Hammer Sep 10 2013, 6:24pm
                    Balin doesn't know... nhui06 Send a private message to nhui06 Sep 10 2013, 6:31pm
                    lol Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Sep 10 2013, 7:54pm
                Not exactly "lazy writing"... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Sep 10 2013, 7:50pm
                    Thanks for the clarification nhui06 Send a private message to nhui06 Sep 10 2013, 7:56pm
    If Necro wouldhave been able to resurrect dead orcs(Azog)that would had reinforced the urgency ofdestroying the ring and would have made evident that an army of goshts wasn´tenoughagainst Mordor Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Send a private message to Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Sep 10 2013, 4:57pm
    The Palantir Not_the_beard Send a private message to Not_the_beard Sep 10 2013, 5:57pm
        Ooooo! vexx801 Send a private message to vexx801 Sep 11 2013, 6:23pm
    Important role, but not the main one Old Pilgrim Send a private message to Old Pilgrim Sep 11 2013, 6:04am
        Couldn't agree more... Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Sep 11 2013, 6:26am
    Azog may never have been independent of Sauron even in the text. Recall that after The Balrog empties AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 11 2013, 6:43am
    Saruman Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Sep 11 2013, 3:31pm
    I hope they keep the Necromancer's role subtle (and no zombies please!) Lio Send a private message to Lio Sep 12 2013, 12:49am
        Completely agree Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Sep 12 2013, 9:44pm
            Oh yes, totally!!! Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Sep 13 2013, 2:24am
            I think they are dead Elskidor Send a private message to Elskidor Sep 22 2013, 11:12pm
                We will see... Rembrethil Send a private message to Rembrethil Sep 24 2013, 1:20am
    ... kbdiggity Send a private message to kbdiggity Sep 12 2013, 1:47am

 
 
 

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