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Regarding Azog

Old Pilgrim
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Sep 9 2013, 5:24pm


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I have just finished rewatching AUJ for the fifth time and there are two things with Azog which seems interesting to me and probably wasn't answered yet as I didn't find any thread connected with it. In the beginning I didn't like his character because he seemed too fake to me because of CGI and all this changing from books but now I am more inclined towards him, maybe because I was watching first move so many times.

Anyway the first interesting thing I noticed was Azog's reaction once he saw Gandalf in the tree and his words after that: leave him to me. Now he can be indicating on Thorin but it seems a little strange that he said that right after he noticed Gandalf and we also know that Azog ordered the other orc to kill Thorin. So my first question is if he was indeed thinking on Gandalf what was he trying to do with him and why? I am thinking that Gandalf was in Dol Guldur or maybe around Moria where he rescued Thrain and met Azog and maybe also Bolg during that event. There he got the map, learned that Azog is alive and inflicted a good deal of damage to the orcs. Maybe this was the reason of Azog's reaction as he was trying to revenge by slaying the wizard himself or maybe the Necromancer himself gave him an order to capture Gandalf and bring him before him.

I am also interested if we will ever hear Azog talking in English or only in the black speech. All other orcs from the Lord of the Rings spoke in English and if he will talk only in the black speech that will prevent any good guys to understand him as they don't know that language. Maybe he won't be talking at all or only his action will be important but it would be interesting to see him talking with Thorin in the same language at the end.

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Regarding Azog Old Pilgrim Send a private message to Old Pilgrim Sep 9 2013, 5:24pm
    hm NoelGallagher Send a private message to NoelGallagher Sep 9 2013, 5:59pm
    Unsure about vexx801 Send a private message to vexx801 Sep 9 2013, 6:01pm
    Hmm interesting idea... malickfan Send a private message to malickfan Sep 9 2013, 6:42pm
        Sauron knew what they were. But Azog would be a fool to attack Gandalf. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 10 2013, 1:26am
            Likely Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Sep 10 2013, 1:42am
                I meant, no Elves would flee Lorien and no Dwarven host would flee Moria. AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 10 2013, 7:41am
                    I was just being sarcastic about Azog... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Sep 10 2013, 2:41pm
                        Now now! Lio Send a private message to Lio Sep 12 2013, 12:00am
    Never thought of that before Ziggy Stardust Send a private message to Ziggy Stardust Sep 10 2013, 12:40am
        One more thing Old Pilgrim Send a private message to Old Pilgrim Sep 10 2013, 6:39am
    Azog was clearly referring to Thorin MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Sep 10 2013, 4:22am
        There must be more to this Old Pilgrim Send a private message to Old Pilgrim Sep 10 2013, 5:21am
            i love that Azog speaks the black speech MouthofSauron Send a private message to MouthofSauron Sep 10 2013, 6:46am
            hmmmm. this is very interesting Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Sep 10 2013, 7:21pm
                Maybe he has been told Old Pilgrim Send a private message to Old Pilgrim Sep 11 2013, 5:39am
                    You make a very convincing case Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Sep 11 2013, 9:36pm
                        I am flattered :-) Old Pilgrim Send a private message to Old Pilgrim Sep 12 2013, 5:05am
                            I always took the look to mean Cirashala Send a private message to Cirashala Sep 12 2013, 5:04pm
                            That's a lot of Poirot movies :-) Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Sep 13 2013, 11:40pm
                    Very good analysis AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 11 2013, 11:57pm
                    I love this theory. Werde Spinner Send a private message to Werde Spinner Sep 12 2013, 12:37am
                        lol - if it doesn't happen Loresilme Send a private message to Loresilme Sep 13 2013, 5:46pm
                    Fantastic post. cats16 Send a private message to cats16 Sep 12 2013, 3:48am
        Definitely. There is even an irritated look on Azog's face the moment when the first pinecone comes streaking down AinurOlorin Send a private message to AinurOlorin Sep 10 2013, 7:43am
    That might explain why Gandalf clearly Arandir Send a private message to Arandir Sep 10 2013, 6:54am

 
 
 

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