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The One Ring Forums: Off Topic: The Pollantir:
The Evilest Villain Ever !!!
Poll: The Evilest Villain Ever !!!
The Only Real Villain is The Dark Lord Sauron !!!
Darth Vader
Lord VoldeMort
The Joker
Hannibal Lector
Freddy Krueger
HAL 9000
Joffrey Baratheon(Lannister) *pfffffffff*
aaaaand of course Myaself , The Witch King of Angmar !!!! wooohooo
None Above
View Results (57 votes)
 

W1tchK1nG
The Shire


Aug 20 2013, 10:42pm

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The Evilest Villain Ever !!! Can't Post

One Villain To Rule Them all , One Villain To Find Them , One Villain To Bring Them All and In The Darkness Bind Them


Ataahua
Superuser / Moderator


Aug 20 2013, 11:15pm

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Of those options I picked Voldemort [In reply to] Can't Post

as he killed with deliberate intent to enhance himself. However I'd choose Morgoth as the most evil villain because he took the innocence and purity of the not-long-born Elves and twisted them into Orcs, corrupting them into evil minions who in turn killed other inhabitants of Middle-earth. (Not to mention his destruction of Middle-earth and the Two Trees of Valinor.)

Sauron, by comparison, only followed in his mentor's footsteps - the only new thing he did was create the One Ring. Talk about under-achievement from an immortal nasty.

Which reminds me of this excerpt from Ufthak's Gandalf's Diaries:


Speaking of the Enemy, I’ve wondered before now why Sauron, and Melkor before him, came up with their “greatest” achievements in a very disjointed manner. You’d think that with hard work and continuous research they could keep churning out an endless stream of nasties to keep the Mortal Lands on the hop, but no. Take Melkor for example - after many, many years, he manages to twist Elves to create orcs. All nice and dandy, and a nasty surprise for everyone there. But then how long after that did he take to unveil his next weapon, the dragons? If anyone else had been running things he would have been receiving memos about performance targets way before then.
As for Sauron, he’s been something of a one-hit wonder, to my mind. After he escaped from the Great Liquidation when the Valar put Melkor and co. permanently out of business, what did he manage to do? He built Barad-Dur, admittedly, which is a fairly impressive architectural feat, although no more than a toothpick when set against Thrangorodrim. And he created the One Ring to control the other Rings, but as we are seeing now, that proved to be something of a double-edged sword. Since then - nothing. He’s bred more orcs and used other people’s discoveries to serve his purposes, but nothing new or original has come out of the Black Land for eons.
Compare this to Saruman, who after perhaps twenty years, certainly no more, of admitting to himself that he wanted to rule, has managed to cross-breed orcs and humans to create a very nasty new breed that can seemingly withstand sunlight and have the foulest tempers I’ve ever seen. A few years and he’s managed to iron out a weakness in the orcs that Melkor couldn’t solve in thousands.
Dark Lords. Bloody piss artists, the pair of ‘em.



batik
Tol Eressea


Aug 21 2013, 12:40am

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Snidely Whiplash! [In reply to] Can't Post

Nothing redeeming about that guy!


sevilodorf
Gondor


Aug 21 2013, 1:39am

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The guy in No Country for Old Men.... [In reply to] Can't Post

that guy was scary.


Werde Spinner
Rohan


Aug 21 2013, 1:52am

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I put 'none' since the Emperor from Star Wars wasn't on here. [In reply to] Can't Post

He seriously gives me the creeps. He's the ultimate chessmaster, organizing everything to his evil purposes. Granted, the prequel trilogy... wasn't stellar... in some respects, but Palpatine still managed to fool a whole council of senior Jedi - including Yoda. That's some serious evil. And just when you think he's a creepy but harmless old man... he starts shooting lightning at you and telekinetically throwing giant metal frisbees at you.

Darth Vader was cool and I could take him seriously as a villain, until the prequel trilogy totally ruined him.

Sauron and Morgoth? We really don't get to see them operate enough to see their villainy. We are just shown their deeds. However, Morgoth wins awards for plunging the world into literal darkness so many times and coming up with the idea for monsters (dragons, orcs, etc.). Giant spiders, however, were apparently *not* his idea.


Elizabeth
Valinor


Aug 21 2013, 8:23am

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But, what about Morgoth? [In reply to] Can't Post

Sauron was a mere servant of this Ultimate Villain!


Starling
Half-elven


Aug 21 2013, 8:35am

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But even scarier [In reply to] Can't Post

was his hair. Shocked


Lightfoot
Rivendell


Aug 21 2013, 3:43pm

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None of the above. [In reply to] Can't Post

A tie between Morgoth and Ungoliant for me!Evil


(This post was edited by Lightfoot on Aug 21 2013, 3:44pm)


macfalk
Valinor


Aug 21 2013, 7:27pm

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Gyp Rosetti. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Otaku-sempai
Half-elven


Aug 21 2013, 7:31pm

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HAL was never a villain [In reply to] Can't Post

He was given instructions that were counter to his programming and which drove him insane. It wasn't his fault.


malickfan
Gondor


Aug 21 2013, 9:48pm

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Other-George Lucas [In reply to] Can't Post

(Joking)
Wink

But seriously Morgoth (even with his leisurely timespans and rather 'you bullied me I'm angry now' approach to villainry)


Darkstone
Immortal


Aug 22 2013, 12:40am

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Dr. Frank-N-Furter [In reply to] Can't Post

Just imagine how he'd corrupt the hoobits....


sevilodorf
Gondor


Aug 22 2013, 1:54am

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imagine being his barber// [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Faenoriel
Tol Eressea


Aug 23 2013, 6:39pm

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A whole lot of real life people were much eviler than many of these villains. [In reply to] Can't Post

Morgoth's goal is to destroy everything that exists because he can't stand that there's other sentient beings with free will of their own, unbound to serve him... or that there exists *anything* other than he himself. That's pretty damn evil. So he's my answer.

Joker is admirably evil too, as his goal is to turn others evil. (I'm only familiar with the movie Joker.) Though you could say he's outside questions of good and evil.


CuriousG
Valinor


Aug 26 2013, 2:01pm

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Hannibal Lecter got my vote [In reply to] Can't Post

Someone who kills, tortures, and eats people to "satisfy his own needs," that's an evil villain to extreme. He didn't have armies of minions to spread his dirty work, but if he did have, think about how much worse it would be. (Like Reavers on Firefly, if anyone knows that show.)


angelclaw
Bree

Aug 29 2013, 2:53am

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Agreed! [In reply to] Can't Post

About both real life people and Morgoth. Joker isn't any more evil than Freddy Kreuger IMO.


BoromirOfWinterfell
Rohan


Sep 8 2013, 7:58am

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Sauron's threat [In reply to] Can't Post

is the most fascinating because he's never truly there; only a heavy cloak hanging over them. However, Hannibal Lecter is one of my utmost favourites - especially the new one in the series 'Hannibal'. In Silence of the Lambs Hannibal doesn't have much screen time - the fact that he's behind bars makes it worse, really. The Hannibal played by Mads Mikkelsen is almost better than Anthony Hopkins - we don't see much of Hopkins' Hannibal before his atrocities were known. Mikkelsen plays the innocent psychiatrist so well that it scares me.


joec_34
Rivendell


Sep 12 2013, 3:45am

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Iago [In reply to] Can't Post

Iago from Shakespeare's Othello.


Elskidor
Rohan

Oct 10 2013, 1:36pm

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Funny [In reply to] Can't Post


In Reply To

Speaking of the Enemy, I’ve wondered before now why Sauron, and Melkor before him, came up with their “greatest” achievements in a very disjointed manner. You’d think that with hard work and continuous research they could keep churning out an endless stream of nasties to keep the Mortal Lands on the hop, but no. Take Melkor for example - after many, many years, he manages to twist Elves to create orcs. All nice and dandy, and a nasty surprise for everyone there. But then how long after that did he take to unveil his next weapon, the dragons? If anyone else had been running things he would have been receiving memos about performance targets way before then.
As for Sauron, he’s been something of a one-hit wonder, to my mind. After he escaped from the Great Liquidation when the Valar put Melkor and co. permanently out of business, what did he manage to do? He built Barad-Dur, admittedly, which is a fairly impressive architectural feat, although no more than a toothpick when set against Thrangorodrim. And he created the One Ring to control the other Rings, but as we are seeing now, that proved to be something of a double-edged sword. Since then - nothing. He’s bred more orcs and used other people’s discoveries to serve his purposes, but nothing new or original has come out of the Black Land for eons.
Compare this to Saruman, who after perhaps twenty years, certainly no more, of admitting to himself that he wanted to rule, has managed to cross-breed orcs and humans to create a very nasty new breed that can seemingly withstand sunlight and have the foulest tempers I’ve ever seen. A few years and he’s managed to iron out a weakness in the orcs that Melkor couldn’t solve in thousands.
Dark Lords. Bloody piss artists, the pair of ‘em.


Looking at it that way then Sauron was a pretty poor student, and just got lucky with the ring, lol. Poser is he.

 
 

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