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Why an attack on the Beornings is no fan-fiction (Spoilers)

Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
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Aug 31 2013, 7:00pm


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When I first read the news that Azog might destroy all of Beorns kin except for Beorn himself I thought three things but I found some explanations and yes most of them came directly from Tolkiens writings itself and not from Peter Jacksons imagination.


1) I thought Beorn was just a huge man with the ability of skin-changing and not part of a different race
--> We don't know from Tolkien if Beorn was only a huge man with a special ability or indeed member of a different men-like race. But we know that after him there was a group of skin-changers called "Beornings" led by Beorns son Grimbeorn and they were described as a different race of men


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Lord of the Rings Wiki: Beornings also known as skin-changers were a race of men that were able to change into bears.



2) Attacking the Beornings... again some kind of Peter Jacksons fan-fiction?
--> I'm sure I wasn't the only one who thought that. BUT Tolkien himself mentioned an attack on Beorns kin in FOTR. When Frodo wears the Ring at Amon Hen he sees many things from far away. One of these things is the land of the Beornings burning. This hints at an attack by Saurons forces. It is not known if this was only a vision or indeed happening and it is not known as well who won. So the images are in the source material and I can imagine that Peter Jackson and his team noticed that too and transported it into The Hobbit to give a bit more backstory to Beorn. In Tolkiens version Beorn was the first of his kin but what if he's the last? There was no Beorning in the LOTR movies so this would explain why.


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The Fellowship Of The Ring Chapter 22: But everywhere he looked he saw the signs of war. The Misty Mountains were crawling like anthills: orcs were issuing out of a thousand holes. Under the boughs of Mirkwood there was deadly strife of Elves and Men and fell beasts. The land of the Beornings was aflame; a cloud was over Moria; smoke rose on the borders of Lórien.



3) Why is Azogs part growing every day?
--> It's all in another thread: So...just how much more prominent is Azog's role going to be?




What do you think???


"There is only one Lord of the Ring, only one who can bend it to his will. And he does not share power."

(This post was edited by Lieutenant of Dol Guldur on Aug 31 2013, 7:09pm)

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Why an attack on the Beornings is no fan-fiction (Spoilers) Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Send a private message to Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Aug 31 2013, 7:00pm
    Am I being daft? DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 31 2013, 9:31pm
        DOS Annual spoiler Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Send a private message to Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Aug 31 2013, 9:50pm
            Me being daft then ... I've already read it! DanielLB Send a private message to DanielLB Aug 31 2013, 10:04pm
    well technically it is... Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Aug 31 2013, 10:43pm
        This is OT, but with Tolkien Estate's harsh viewpoint regarding fan fiction, it's kind of strange that Russian author Nick Perumov manished to write and publish a whole trilogy set in Tolkien's Middle Earth... DeadRabbits Send a private message to DeadRabbits Aug 31 2013, 11:13pm
            Probably depends Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Aug 31 2013, 11:19pm
                But it's not totally made up, just transported Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Send a private message to Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Sep 1 2013, 3:03pm
        Um, well, I'd say technically it isn't... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Aug 31 2013, 11:18pm
            its not the author or anyone acting on his behalf Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Aug 31 2013, 11:21pm
    ... kbdiggity Send a private message to kbdiggity Sep 1 2013, 4:07am
    But, the Beornings don't exist yet. Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Sep 1 2013, 2:48pm
        Didn't you read the whole text? Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Send a private message to Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Sep 1 2013, 2:52pm
            Apparently I missed that Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Sep 1 2013, 3:01pm
                No one choses the life of an eremite without reason Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Send a private message to Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Sep 1 2013, 3:34pm
                    It is made up and it is fan-fiction... Morthoron Send a private message to Morthoron Sep 1 2013, 4:22pm
                        Thanks I just noticed something Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Send a private message to Lieutenant of Dol Guldur Sep 1 2013, 4:28pm
                        Meanwhile, The Hobbit, one Bilbo Baggins, Lusitano Send a private message to Lusitano Sep 1 2013, 7:41pm
                    Book vs. Film Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Sep 2 2013, 3:21am
                        I agree Yngwulff Send a private message to Yngwulff Sep 2 2013, 3:57am
                            You're right, of course Otaku-sempai Send a private message to Otaku-sempai Sep 2 2013, 4:05am

 
 
 

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