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DoS Plot Summary Attempt

Captain Salt
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Aug 26 2013, 11:20pm

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Just an attempt to put together the plot of the film from what we know so far - did this a couple times with AUJ, so thought I'd give it another go. Feel free to add anything that's missing so we can assemble as inclusive an attempt as possible. (Note - some speculation and supposition):

Prologue - We know that PJ has said the film opens somewhere "familiar but unexpected". We also know that a scene was apparently shot at the Inn of the Prancing Pony during the past summer's reshoots (perhaps a flashback with Gandalf and Thorin planning the Quest for Erebor), and that there will be more material concerning Thrain, who will be played in an expanded role by Sir Antony Sher and who will be present in a revisitation of the Battle of Moria; both seem like potential prologue material - or, they may be present somewhere else in the film.

Act 1

Most likely will open with Thorin & Co. heading for Beorn's house, probably with Azog (or the threat of Azog) still hot on their heels. Perhaps we might have an exchange between Bilbo and Gandy here, as reported from Cinema-Con 2012:

Gandalf: You're not the same Hobbit who set out from the Shire...what did you find down there, in the Goblin tunnels?
Bilbo (pausing, fingering the Ring): My courage.
Gandalf: Good...you're going to need it.

Thorin & Co. arrive at Beorn's house, apparently enraging Beorn who attacks the Company as they try to keep him out of his house. Mikeal Persbrandt has mentioned being strapped to the ceiling for a "difficult torture scene"; his Bridge Direct action figure mentions that he is "the last of his kind"; and the (possible) bear paws used a Bolg's shoulder pauldrons have led to speculation that there may be a subplot where Bolg or the Necromancer's minions have a personal animosity with Beorn (perhaps we might have a flashback, or Beorn will be introduced to the audience prior to the Company ALA the Rohirrim in TTT). There will also apparently be a scene where Beorn questions/slays at least one Orc himself.

Thorin & Co. will enter Mirkwood, while Gandy will leave them to investigate the growing shadow of the Necromancer; he seems to be departing with some urgency in the bit of this scene from one of the vlogs:

Gandy: Give me a horse!
Ori: Why, where are you going?!
Gandalf: In search of answers!

Perhaps information given to Gandy by Beorn will spark his side-quest, but for whatever reason, he evidently will leave the Company in a flurry here. Bilbo and the Dwarves enter Mirkwood where many of the events from the novel are (or at one point were) included, such as: Bombur falling into the enchanted stream and being carried by the other dwarves; Thorin's stag; and Bilbo's tree/the butterflies (some of this may end up in the EE, or IMO, it's likely to play-out as a rather brief montage). Somewhere along here, Ori may find a pouch witch will elicit an alarmed (or excited?) response from Dori.

Meanwhile, Gandy investigates the King's Tomb (crypts of the Nazgul) along with Radagast, only to find that they are empty. There was mention of Gandalf and Elrond scouting out Dol Guldur, but this seems to have been replaced with Raddy as Gandy's sidekick.

Bilbo and the Dwarves will encounter the spiders; the dwarves will be "webbed" by the spiders, but will apparently be given chase by the beasts before they're captured - Bilbo evidently escapes and has a confrontation with the spiders here, where Sting will most likely be named. The Wood-elves including Legolas and Tauriel are involved in fighting off the spiders in the film. The dwarves are captured, and Thorin will have a rather tense encounter with Thranduil (Thrandy: It has been a long time since Thorin Oakenshield ventured north...for what purpose?) after which the Dwarves are imprisoned.

A subplot will involve Tauriel, a young Silvan elf who is a Captain of the Elvenking's guard and who feels strongly about intervention in the "rise of evil" (potentially a response to the growing power of the Necromancer) while Legolas, apparently taking a cue from his father, is initially isolationist. There is rumored to be a romantic subplot involving Tauriel as well; supposedly Kili will become attracted to her (though for all we know, this is one-sided and a Gimli/Galadriel type-thing); there are pursistant rumors of a Legolas/Tauriel romance; and (IMO most intriguingly) rumors that Tauriel will have an unrequited thing for Thranduil.

Craig Hall has been cast as Galion, the King's butler, while Eli Kent is playing an Elf named "Lethuin". (?!?) Robin Kerr also plays an Elf named "Elros" (probably of Rivendell), but obviously we don't know how he fits into the film.

At one or more point(s), the Elves will battle ranks or Orcs - either on the parapets of the Woodland Realm, on Dol Guldur, somewhere along the River Running, or some combination of these options. At least one Orc will be captured and interrogated by the Elves.

Legolas: There was more the Orc could have told us.
Thranduil: There was NOT more he could have told me!

Azog and his hunters will continue to track Thorin's Company into DoS; presumbably, Fimbul - who was originally intended to be Azog's lieutenant, and who appears on the DoS Annual - probably plays a larger role reminiscent of Yazneg in the first film. Ben Mitchell also plays "Narzug" who it doesn't seem was in AUJ. Conan Stevens as Bolg will also have a part to play amongst the Orcs, probably not only in relation to Azog but in the Necromancer story as well.

Act 2

At some point the Dwarves escape from the Elves' dungeon (a LEGO playset implies that at least part of this sequence will stay somewhat true to the novel); Tauriel will at some point declare "the cells are empty" in Elvish as the dwarves are found to have escaped their containment. Bilbo and the dwarves are quite noticeable as opposed to the book as they take off in barrels. During their escape, Thorin's Company gets caught in a three-way battle with both Legolas/Tauriel/the wood-elves and Azog/the hunter orcs in what seems will be a fairly large setpiece.

Somewhere in here Gandy's investigation will lead him into Dol Guldur, into which he descends despite knowing it's "a trap". Here he'll confront an either crazed or undead Thrain (and later seems to be following Thrain through the Labyrinth of Dol Guldur); a Gandy/Bolg toy set, with Bolg's Bridge Direct action figure describing him as the Necromancer's interrogator, imply that Gandy will meet Bolg in the Necro's dominion at some point as well. Supposedly Gandalf will be rescued at some point by Radagast - IMO, he could get in over his head here and Raddy could use his abilities to help him escape. Around here Gandy will also conclude or uncover the identity of the Necromancer as well, to Raddy's alarm. The Nazgul or other monsters could take part in this part of the film as well during Gandy's investigation into Dol Guldur; other than Radagast, Beorn, Legolas & Tauriel might come into play IMO.

Thorin's Company evidently are picked up by Bard the Bowman on the banks of the River and taken into Laketown; it seems that Orcs follow them into Esgaroth (pursued by Legolas/Tauriel) and injure a girl (possibly named "Tilda") who Tauriel will later heal. The Master (seemingly) welcomes the Company into Laketown, thought it's not known how his "conniving civil servant" Alfrid will feature. Here Bilbo and the Dwarves will be clad in new raiment after being stripped in the dungeons of the wood-elves (gulp)!

Bard certainly seems to have reservations about this quest, and will have a relationship with his young son Bain. Bard will be a bit of a "scoundrel" and we won't initially know if he's a hero or not - at one point he'll be chased by Braga, the captain of the Lake-guard played by Mark Mitchenson, who it seems may basically be the "Gamling" of TH. Apparently Bard will not be a Guardsman of Lake-town, at least not initially, but will be more of a "Robin Hood" figure who helps the people of Esgaroth in the face of the Master's neglect, and is at odds with Braga who is head of the Guard.

Laketown is supposed to be a "big moment" for Fili and Kili, as presumably they'll be revealed to be Thorin's heirs here; he may also plan to leave them behind before heading off to the Lonely Mountain; Kili also seems to have been inflected by an "orc wound" as his way into Esgaroth. The changing of seasons from Fall into Winter seems to imply the Company spends a long stretch of time in Laketown.

Act 3

Thorin's Company will eventually set off for the Lonely Mountain, passing the ruins of Dale and climbing the Dwarf statues at Erebor's entrance. Eventually they'll probably use the key and hidden door, allowing Bilbo to gain entrance. Bilbo will have a face-to-fang encounter with Smaug - thought it's unknown how similar it will be to the book (Bilbo will try to evade the dragon at one point, and move through the treasure chamber at great speed at some point as well).

Somewhere toward the end of the film Gandy, Radagast and probably Galadriel (and potentially other characters as well) will attack Dol Guldur in an attempt to drive out the Necromancer. At some point, a "Gandy doll" was used during shooting, meaning that Gandalf might be incapacitated by some way and have to carried out by Galadriel (not sure where this info comes from?). IMO, Gandy and possibly Raddy will try to take on the Necro alone, but will be saved by the arrival of the White Council and its allies (Silvester McCoy has said there's a scene in Film 2 where the wizards are fighting "some other evil" in Dol Guldur, though Saruman is already supposedly "up to no good" according to Philipa Boyens, and it seems Christopher Lee didn't take part in filming for Dol Guldur). Again, the Nazgul, Orcs or other monsters could play a part as the minions of Sauron. In vlog 1, PJ also briefly shows off what appears to be the Necromaner's inner chamber stating that "he" - presumably Sauron - could "go out fighting" and "impaling people"; this implies that there will be some soldiers at Dol Guldur, possibly some wood-elves (which would fit scenes of Leggy and Tauriel fighting orcs in an old stone location in the vlogs).

Probably playing out concurrently with the Battle of Dol Guldur will be a confrontation between Smaug and Thorin's company on the slopes (and walls?) of Erebor, where the dwarves fight against the dragon using all manner of dwarvish "artillery"/explosives. This is described as being the "biggest" scene of PJ's career (seems like a slight understatement).

As of now, it seems likely that DoS will end with a stalemate with Bilbo and the Dwarves trapped in the Lonely Mountain as Smaug takes off for Laketown; and Gandy/the White Council driving the Necromancer out of Dol Guldur (but not defeating him, thought we don't yet know - despite rumor and speculation - whether the Necromancer will play a part in TABA).

So, to some up...

New/Expanded Characters:
Beorn...Mikael Persbrandt
Thranduil...Lee Pace
Legolas..Orlando Bloom
Tauriel...Evangeline Lilly
Galion...Craig Hall
Bard...Luke Evans
Bain...John Bell
Master of Lake-town...Stephen Fry
Alfrid...Ryan Gage
Braga...Mark Mitchinson
Bolg...Conan Stevens
Thrain...Sir Antony Sher
Smaug & Sauron/The Necromaner...Benedict Cumberbatch

Major Setpeices:
Mirkwood Spiders
Barrels out of Bond/Entrance to Lake-town (Dwarf/Elf/Orc three-way affair, possible Bard involvement)
Gandy's forray into Dol Guldur
Battle of Dol Guldur
Dwarf Confrontation with Smaug on slopes of Erebor
(probably some serious Azog/Bolg action in here somewhere as well)

Locations:
Beorn's House
Mirkwood Forest
Woodland Realm
River Running
Lake-town
Bree (flashback?)
Moria (flashback)
Ruins of Dale
Dol Guldur
The Lonely Mountain/Erebor

So, there it is...will post an updated version after the next trailer and/or more solid info comes out as we get closer to the film's release in cinemas.

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!

(This post was edited by Captain Salt on Aug 26 2013, 11:29pm)


Sinister71
Tol Eressea


Aug 26 2013, 11:30pm

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Nice post Captain // [In reply to] Can't Post

 


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Aug 27 2013, 12:23am

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Thanks, and please excuse the typos. [In reply to] Can't Post

Just noticed there are some rushed misspellings...who's the "Necromaner"? TongueBlush

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


Lissuin
Tol Eressea


Aug 27 2013, 12:54am

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Wow, [In reply to] Can't Post

just...wow.
Someone has been paying attention.Smile
And forget the typos. This is amazing.


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Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Aug 27 2013, 1:20am

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Thanks! [In reply to] Can't Post

Only about 3 and a half months until we find out how close to the mark it is! Smile

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Aug 27 2013, 1:22am

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Actually meant, the Smaug confrontation being PJ's "biggest" scene [In reply to] Can't Post

seemed a bit of an "OVERstatment". IMO it's hard to imagine it being bigger than some of the battle scenes (or the Balrog scene for pure emotion). But anyhoo... TongueBlush

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


Barrow-Wight
Rohan


Aug 27 2013, 1:30am

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What If.... [In reply to] Can't Post

What if at the beginning we are led to believe that Beorn and the giant bear are separate beings and that Beorn is a bad guy and the bear is his enforcer? like if you say we meet Beorn first before the Company does. Like we see a giant bear attack a company of orcs and carry one away for interrogation then later we see Human Beorn torturing the orc. then later when the bear attacks the dwarves he transforms back into Beorn, just a thought,

and I want to bring up someone mentioned that That Bilbo and the dwarves could be running from Beorn's Bees and that's why they end up in his house. I love that idea



cats16
Valinor

Aug 27 2013, 1:32am

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Very nice breakdown. [In reply to] Can't Post

I imagine this wasn't the easiest thing to write up, as I know you aren't the fondest of AUJ in some respects.

I agree with quite a bit of this, though I don't remember some of the details you've provided being mentioned. It all fits very nicely, so I'm eager to see how this matches up to the final product.

Nice job!


Salmacis81
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Aug 27 2013, 1:42am

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Cool post... [In reply to] Can't Post

But you left out the "High Fells" in the locations section. This place is supposed to be in Rhudaur (which is on the other side of the Misty Mountains), so either Gandalf is going to have to backtrack, or the High Fells will be a flashback. Or Jackson has moved Rhudaur to the east side of the mountains.


Cirashala
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Aug 27 2013, 3:23am

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laketown-spoilers [In reply to] Can't Post

Well, technically I suppose the entire thread is a spoiler Tongue

Has anyone heard anything certain about whether the destruction of Laketown will be happening in DOS?

I seem to remember a snippet somewhere (though I could be wrong) that PJ said the destruction of Laketown, not the dwarf/dragon confrontation was his biggest setpiece and action sequence ever (potentially excluding BO5A).

Thoughts?

Tauriel (as her hair catches during BO5A)- Ah, now I understand why you keep your beard so short, master Kili!
Kili: Um, because it grows slowly? (glares at her for perceived insult)
Tauriel: Because your arrows don't get tangled in your *^%*(^$%* beard every time you shoot! (more curses as it gets further tangled)
Kili: Um, YEAH! That's it! That's why I keep my beard short! (strides off triumphantly with a huge grin on his face, still shooting arrows as the cursing and tangles continues behind him)

Tauriel keeps fighting the tangles on the battlefield long after Dain takes the throne and Dale is rebuilt. Frodo takes the ring to Morder and once Sauron is defeated she FINALLY gets the last arrow out.


Eleniel
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Aug 27 2013, 6:53am

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Nice summary! [In reply to] Can't Post

Great work - a couple of points, though...

I still reckon the High Fells scene is supposed to have taken place when Gandalf leaves Rivendell, to explain his delay in rejoining the Dwarves in Goblin Town, so many reckon it will be shown as a flashback early on in DoS - perhaps during the Company's stay with Beorn...

The reference to Galadriel carrying a Gandalf doll around came from the Dec 2012 EMPIRE magazine...

According to a panel with Sylvester McCoy at the Armageddon Expo in Wellington in May, Saruman will be at the assault on DG, directing his magic from a ridge some small distance away...
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Thread here


"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
Victoria Monfort


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Arandir
Gondor


Aug 27 2013, 7:18am

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Very interesting! ... just one small thing [In reply to] Can't Post

At one point you mentioned the conversation between Gandalf and Ori(?), about the wizard needing a horse.

Not sure whether it's a typo but isn't that supposed to be Radagast he's talking to - near the borders of Mirkwood (probably Rhosgobel)? If that's so, Gandalf might first leave Beorn's house, visit Radagast and then go back to explore the Tombs ...

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Eleniel
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Aug 27 2013, 9:28am

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Yes, it's almost certain the high-pitched voice heard in the V-log was McCoy... [In reply to] Can't Post

...doing a frightened/agitated Radagast., since he was in the subsequent visuals of the wrap party that followed the final take of that scene we heard. He was blurred out because he was still in his (at that time) unrevealed costume & makeup.


"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
Victoria Monfort


Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
Gondor


Aug 27 2013, 12:04pm

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Necromancer's inner chamber [In reply to] Can't Post


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"In vlog 1, PJ also briefly shows off what appears to be the Necromaner's inner chamber stating that "he" - presumably Sauron - could "go out fighting" and "impaling people"


Where did you get that quote from and where in vlog 1 did you see something that could be the inner chamber? I can't see anything like that. But all in all it's a great summary of things we know and I have to thank you for your time/work! :)




"There is only one Lord of the Ring, only one who can bend it to his will. And he does not share power."


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Aug 27 2013, 4:35pm

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Thanks, and agreed High Fells as flashback makes sense... [In reply to] Can't Post

It may well play out this way, similar to Radagast recounting his Nazgul/Necro encounter in AUJ.

And glad to hear Saruman will take part in Dol Guldur in some way! It's gonna be an event it have all three wizards involved in that scene. :)

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Aug 27 2013, 4:36pm

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Ah, okay...that follows as Raddy seems to be Gandy's sidekick in the Necromancer story. // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Aug 27 2013, 4:37pm

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That may have been it... [In reply to] Can't Post

If so, that certainly packs even more into DoS!

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!

(This post was edited by Captain Salt on Aug 27 2013, 4:38pm)


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Aug 29 2013, 1:23am

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This was in vlog 1 at about :52... [In reply to] Can't Post

or, it's been discussed before as probably being the interior of Dol Guldur. Anywho, thanks and glad the summary was useful. Smile

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


Lieutenant of Dol Guldur
Gondor


Aug 29 2013, 8:11am

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Thanks a lot man! [In reply to] Can't Post

I watched these vlogs again and again and again but I really never noticed that. Very interessting. Thanks man! It looks almost like a Nazgl on the left of the coloured painting doesn't it?

"There is only one Lord of the Ring, only one who can bend it to his will. And he does not share power."


Eleniel
Grey Havens


Aug 29 2013, 10:45am

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I just rewatched that.. [In reply to] Can't Post

as I hadn't picked up on it before, either! To me, though, it sounds like maybe Bolg they're referring to - somehow I can't imagine Sauron impallling people with others hanging on to him. I know we would like Sauron to have a physical presence but that just seems too solid!


"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
Victoria Monfort


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Aug 29 2013, 5:45pm

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It's certainly possible [In reply to] Can't Post

but that would most likely mean no defeat of Bolg by Beorn, unfortunately (even if it were transferred from BoFa to the Battle of Dol Guldur - unless of course, Beorn is one of those characters slamming Bolg in the scene). I suppose Bolg's bear claws/shoulder pads may have not have hinted at such a confrontation, or the script have have changed - we'll have to wait and find out.

BTW, just re-read the quotes from Sylvester McCoy - from that thread, it seems like McCoy's slightly have away Saruman may be present, but Saruman controlling the weather or something similar from a nearby ridge was speculation drawn from his response - was there another quote where McCoy was more concrete? Either way, it's certainly good to have it pretty much implied that Sarry will be present at the big event concerning the Necro story. Smile I seem to recall now that PJ and Co. may have hinted at something similar in the past?

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


Captain Salt
Tol Eressea


Aug 29 2013, 5:48pm

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Yes, it does appear to be wightish or wraithish! :) // [In reply to] Can't Post

 

My Top 5 Wish List for "The Hobbit"
5. Legolas will surf down Smaug's neck
4. Bilbo will be revealed to a Robot
3. Naked PJ cameo as Ghan-Buri-Ghan
2. Use of not only 3D, but smell-o-vision, plus the inclusion of axes coming out of the seats and poking the audience when appropriate
1. Not only keep the claim that Thorin & Co. ran amok in Mirkwood "molesting people", but depict said incident in vivid detail!!!!!


Eleniel
Grey Havens


Aug 29 2013, 6:13pm

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If there was, I don't recall... [In reply to] Can't Post


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BTW, just re-read the quotes from Sylvester McCoy - from that thread, it seems like McCoy's slightly have away Saruman may be present, but Saruman controlling the weather or something similar from a nearby ridge was speculation drawn from his response - was there another quote where McCoy was more concrete? Either way, it's certainly good to have it pretty much implied that Sarry will be present at the big event concerning the Necro story. Smile I seem to recall now that PJ and Co. may have hinted at something similar in the past?






I can only remember that video of McCoy at the Armageddon Expo...he also said in one of the EMPIRE interviews that he had filmed a scene with Cate Blanchell but not with Saruman, which is why a lot of people tended to think Saruman wouldn't be involved in the battle at DG. But of course if Chris Lee was filming in London against green screen that would explain it. Smile


"Choosing Trust over Doubt gets me burned once in a while, but I'd rather be singed than hardened."
Victoria Monfort

 
 

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