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Would you be so kind to share your speculatins in a PM?

Semper Fi
Rohan


Aug 21 2013, 12:57pm


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Would you be so kind to share your speculatins in a PM? [In reply to] Can't Post
I'd very much like to know what you think for I have some ideas as well. But in order to avoid speculation = spoiler contorversy PM would be better.

That said, from everything you mentiond in the post, Tauriel definitely doesn't sound like a Mary Sue because she has a place in the story. Mary Sue would be someone who is shoe-horned and doesn't need to be there for another character can do whatever she does. Recent example would be Lois Lane in Man of Steel. As a reporter, she had no business in many places throughout the movie, most glaringly obivous one being her unexplicable ride to Zod's mothership. That was such eye-roller. I don't detect such problem with the King's Guard.
"RadagaStoner deserves no mercy!" Tauriel the Radagast Slayer, the Chief of Inglorious Elfguards


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A case-simply a case Ziggy Stardust Send a private message to Ziggy Stardust Aug 21 2013, 1:28am
    Just an afterthought Ziggy Stardust Send a private message to Ziggy Stardust Aug 21 2013, 1:32am
    Great rundown of what's wrong with Mary Sue characterisation Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Aug 21 2013, 2:09am
        Age Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Aug 21 2013, 2:16am
        I wonder... Aitieuriskon Send a private message to Aitieuriskon Aug 21 2013, 4:25pm
            Can't quote the casting call word for word but Tauriel (formerly Itaril) Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Aug 21 2013, 4:33pm
                In that case Aitieuriskon Send a private message to Aitieuriskon Aug 21 2013, 4:36pm
    I agreed with most of what you had to say... Salmacis81 Send a private message to Salmacis81 Aug 21 2013, 2:23am
        I agree with everything in the above post ^// Nira Send a private message to Nira Aug 21 2013, 3:12am
        After 9-10 viewings Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Aug 21 2013, 3:40am
    Respectful Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Aug 21 2013, 3:38am
        Thanks, Elessar Ziggy Stardust Send a private message to Ziggy Stardust Aug 22 2013, 1:17am
            You're welcome Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Aug 22 2013, 1:21am
            I know exactly how you feel Ziggy Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Aug 22 2013, 1:26am
                Thanks, sinister Ziggy Stardust Send a private message to Ziggy Stardust Aug 22 2013, 1:37am
    Straw Men, Mary Sue, and the Once and Future...Captain Of The Elf Guards DwellerInDale Send a private message to DwellerInDale Aug 21 2013, 6:17am
        Some, maybe, but not necessarily all... ;-) Eleniel Send a private message to Eleniel Aug 21 2013, 7:23am
            Can I just ask tolktolk Send a private message to tolktolk Aug 21 2013, 10:07am
                She is well known for starring in LOST... jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey Aug 21 2013, 10:40am
                Nobody in the cast is a star Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Aug 21 2013, 11:02am
                Well... timing. Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Aug 21 2013, 11:37am
                    Not even timing Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Aug 21 2013, 12:47pm
                        I wasn't "trumping" (!) tolktolk Send a private message to tolktolk Aug 21 2013, 1:13pm
                            Hype/Quality Arannir Send a private message to Arannir Aug 21 2013, 1:29pm
                                I alsow ant to add that Tauriel cover Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Aug 21 2013, 2:21pm
                                    If you are meaning my post tolktolk Send a private message to tolktolk Aug 21 2013, 8:47pm
                            Not a big star arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Aug 21 2013, 4:10pm
        This works both ways jtarkey Send a private message to jtarkey Aug 21 2013, 10:34am
            The story so far (spoilers) DwellerInDale Send a private message to DwellerInDale Aug 21 2013, 11:49am
                Hmm... Elessar Send a private message to Elessar Aug 21 2013, 12:17pm
                Would you be so kind to share your speculatins in a PM? Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Aug 21 2013, 12:57pm
                    Speculations sent DwellerInDale Send a private message to DwellerInDale Aug 21 2013, 2:03pm
                Nice post! burgahobbit Send a private message to burgahobbit Aug 21 2013, 1:46pm
                Too much importance perhaps.... Eurolock Send a private message to Eurolock Aug 21 2013, 1:52pm
                    Probably much more complex DwellerInDale Send a private message to DwellerInDale Aug 21 2013, 2:19pm
                    It's just the same as Thranderz Send a private message to Thranderz Aug 21 2013, 3:00pm
                    Deviations arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Aug 21 2013, 4:16pm
                        I still just despise the thought Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Aug 21 2013, 4:39pm
                            I agree to an extent Aitieuriskon Send a private message to Aitieuriskon Aug 21 2013, 5:02pm
                            Necromancer's expanded role is meant to make The Hobbit bigger than it is Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Aug 21 2013, 5:23pm
                                The problem of the White Council subplot Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Aug 21 2013, 5:40pm
                                But the Bo5A shouldn't be about the fate of the world Aitieuriskon Send a private message to Aitieuriskon Aug 21 2013, 7:45pm
                                    completely Agree Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Aug 21 2013, 7:51pm
                                    Huh? *book spoilers* arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Aug 21 2013, 8:00pm
                                        If my guess is correct Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Aug 21 2013, 8:18pm
                                        Let me elaborate, for greed is certainly the prime mover in the book Aitieuriskon Send a private message to Aitieuriskon Aug 21 2013, 10:22pm
                                    I'm not in disagreement with you Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Aug 21 2013, 8:14pm
                                        I see your point Aitieuriskon Send a private message to Aitieuriskon Aug 21 2013, 10:25pm
                                        Loki DjU Send a private message to DjU Aug 21 2013, 11:24pm
                                            Of course Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Aug 22 2013, 1:55am
                            Necromancer and Bo5A Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Aug 21 2013, 5:32pm
                                I'm not expecting he'll show up in person! arithmancer Send a private message to arithmancer Aug 21 2013, 7:51pm
                                    Sauron Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Aug 21 2013, 8:31pm
                                        This Aitieuriskon Send a private message to Aitieuriskon Aug 21 2013, 10:30pm
        Pursuing Tauriel Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Aug 21 2013, 12:00pm
            The only marillaraina Send a private message to marillaraina Aug 22 2013, 4:59am
                Exactly DwellerInDale Send a private message to DwellerInDale Aug 22 2013, 6:32am
                    please no Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Aug 22 2013, 9:06pm
                Hey! 20ft tall woman and 2ft tall man didn't stop Tom and Nicole and TomKat Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Aug 22 2013, 10:48am
                Turner or not... Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Aug 22 2013, 12:21pm
                    By the sound of it, neither romance will be kissy kissy Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Aug 22 2013, 12:37pm
                    The wording seems unfortunate DwellerInDale Send a private message to DwellerInDale Aug 22 2013, 1:34pm
                        Thanks for the link... Elthir Send a private message to Elthir Aug 22 2013, 3:44pm
        What Eleniel and jtarkey said Ziggy Stardust Send a private message to Ziggy Stardust Aug 22 2013, 1:21am
    My thought... Legomir Send a private message to Legomir Aug 21 2013, 7:13am
    You've made your case well... dormouse Send a private message to dormouse Aug 21 2013, 7:24am
        Thanks Dormouse Ziggy Stardust Send a private message to Ziggy Stardust Aug 22 2013, 1:25am
    Ziggy you echo my thoughts and worries very well, and I agree with you almost entirely malickfan Send a private message to malickfan Aug 21 2013, 3:34pm
        What?! Ziggy Stardust Send a private message to Ziggy Stardust Aug 22 2013, 1:29am
            Yeah I heard Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Aug 22 2013, 1:42am
            Relax guys, there is another interpretation DwellerInDale Send a private message to DwellerInDale Aug 22 2013, 1:47am
                As long as it's Galadriel Ziggy Stardust Send a private message to Ziggy Stardust Aug 22 2013, 4:02pm
                    As for the Witch King prophecy Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Aug 22 2013, 7:13pm
                        Eowyn predates Arwen Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Aug 22 2013, 10:08pm
                            That comes from Daniel Grotta's horribly inaccurate biography Voronwë_the_Faithful Send a private message to Voronwë_the_Faithful Aug 22 2013, 10:43pm
                                Thanks, Voronwe. Ardamírë Send a private message to Ardamírë Aug 23 2013, 2:20am
                    No offense to Glorfindel DwellerInDale Send a private message to DwellerInDale Aug 23 2013, 1:14am
                        to me it just makes no sense Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Aug 23 2013, 1:23am
                            Wait, isn't Lindir canon? DwellerInDale Send a private message to DwellerInDale Aug 23 2013, 1:34am
                                I believe Lindir was Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Aug 23 2013, 1:59am
                            How's Figwit even an Elven name? Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Aug 23 2013, 2:33am
                                F.I.G.W.I.T. Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Aug 23 2013, 2:47am
                                Figwit is a fan-made name (originating here on Tor.n i believe) sauget.diblosio Send a private message to sauget.diblosio Aug 23 2013, 2:47am
                                    Yes, it was coined by a board member of TORN. Ataahua Send a private message to Ataahua Aug 23 2013, 3:08am
                                        I see Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Aug 23 2013, 11:15am
                        LOL, SPROGs instantly reminded me of SPEW Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Aug 23 2013, 2:14am
            I never got the outrage over Glorfiendel's omission Semper Fi Send a private message to Semper Fi Aug 22 2013, 2:06am
                I can explain Ziggy Stardust Send a private message to Ziggy Stardust Aug 22 2013, 3:54pm
    great Post Ziggy Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Aug 21 2013, 4:15pm
    I'll take the risk. Bumblingidiot Send a private message to Bumblingidiot Aug 21 2013, 4:57pm
    All this over a character who's gonna be onscreen for 10 minutes tops sycorax82 Send a private message to sycorax82 Aug 21 2013, 5:02pm
        At this point Sinister71 Send a private message to Sinister71 Aug 21 2013, 8:57pm
    I understand your fears Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Send a private message to Mr. Arkenstone (isaac) Aug 21 2013, 6:53pm
    Mary Sue D & D et al Michelle Johnston Aug 21 2013, 9:12pm
        My thoughts exactly! Thranderz Send a private message to Thranderz Aug 21 2013, 9:35pm

 
 
 

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